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Coal car dump
Posted by airtrain on Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:34 AM

   I once worked for a company that had a maintance contract for a coal car dumping station. This machine turned the entire car upside down to dump the coal into a pit with a series of conveyors to carry it away. Does anyone know of a company making a model of this operation or anything similiar? Thanks for any help you can give.

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Posted by gdelmoro on Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:08 AM

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Posted by gregc on Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:24 AM

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Posted by railandsail on Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:40 AM

Walthers made such an HO kit, but I do not think its available any longer

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Posted by josephbw on Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:57 AM

At our club, in the early days we thought about making an operating coal mine and unloading facility. Then in one of our operating sessions using live coal loads, we had a derailment and dumped 2 cars loads of "coal" on the scenery. It took about a half an hour to get it all cleaned up. We promtly abandoned the idea of using live coal loads. Oops - Sign

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Posted by railandsail on Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:58 AM

BTW, look how much more efficient this operation is than the rotary dumper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o7n-8LvKTI

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:17 AM

Walthers has this on sale:

https://www.walthers.com/rotary-dumper-superior-paper-kit-9-1-2-x-7-1-4-quot-24-1-x-18-4cm-required-clearance-2-1-2-quot-6-4cm

It's part of a paper mill complex, maybe you can adapt it to coal.

Walthers # 933-3903

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Posted by railandsail on Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:43 AM

Just wondering if it is an operating dumper, or one that could be modified to do so??

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:29 AM

The Walthers rotary dumper could be used at any industry where they want to dump a gondola. Kaiser Steel Mill used them for coal and for limestone. The Walthers kit does rotate manually and the instructions say that you can add your own motor to make it powered. If you wanted to actually dump something you would have to also build your own operating conveyor belt or figure out another way to remove the dumped material.

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Posted by dknelson on Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:46 PM

I have always been intrigued by this 1897 (!!) film by Thomas Edison of a car dumper in action.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0br89U8K-U

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Posted by railandsail on Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:53 PM

dknelson

I have always been intrigued by this 1897 (!!) film by Thomas Edison of a car dumper in action.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0br89U8K-U

Dave Nelson

That was very interesting,...haven't seen that before.
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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, February 3, 2018 2:59 PM

THIS would be fun to replicate on a model railroad!

 

Looks more like a piece of amusement park equipment...

I chuckled when I heard the narrator say (at 1:14) "The load is supported at four points near the boogie center" Whistling

This might be the dumper that Edison filmed, or one very much like it:

http://www.shorpy.com/node/9811?size=_original#caption

 

railandsail

Just wondering if it is an operating dumper, or one that could be modified to do so??

Lots of information on the Walthers Rotary dumper here:

http://empcccc.sourceforge.net/rotary_dumper-AD.html

Like so many of Walthers motorized kits, I understand they needed some degree of modification to make them function properly.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by railandsail on Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:08 PM

gmpullman

Lots of information on the Walthers Rotary dumper here:

http://empcccc.sourceforge.net/rotary_dumper-AD.html

Like so many of Walthers motorized kits, I understand they needed some degree of modification to make them function properly.

Good Luck, Ed

WOW that is LOTS of info,...information overload. Wonder how long it took him to put that together

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Posted by airtrain on Sunday, February 4, 2018 12:43 AM

It was alot like the second video. It was cable operated. The main difference was the car was heal in place by 2 arches that went all the way across the car and were also activated by cables. It was a rather old set-up, one of our first jobs was to reinforce all of the structure so it would hold heavier more modern cars.

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Posted by airtrain on Sunday, February 4, 2018 1:01 AM

It looks like the walthers kit would take a lot of work to make it like what I am thinking of, but hey, thats what it's all about. Thanks for all the input.

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