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Custom scale figures?
Posted by TheGamp on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:46 PM

Since my eventual layout will build on a nostalgic scene from my own life, I wanted to see if I could populate it with figures of people I know. So instead of working on my White Castle building or my R36 WF subway car, for the last few months I've put together a 3D-scanning system based around an XBox 360 Kinect video game sensor and 3D printer.

Over the weekend I had the first test flight of the system and printed out a 1:18 scale figure. And last night I did a quick-and-dirty test to see if one could even be printed in 1:87 scale. It came out way rough, but I do have a finer-bore printer nozzle that I will be experimenting with in the days to come. And someday I'll learn how to paint.

But I'm curious to see if anyone else has either a) built a similar scanning system, or b) found other suppliers of such a service for their own layouts. And just to gauge if there's any interest in this sort of thing beyond my own obsessions.

edit 1/11/18 - hopefully these pictures show up now

 

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 4:59 PM

Can't see your pics.  There are rules on posting photos to this forum in a sticky.  You can't cheat on the rules.

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/249194.aspx


PS They aren't my rules, I'm only a visitor.

 
 

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:05 PM

TheGamp:

Sounds like a logical use for 3D printing. With the right software you could design your own figures to be posed exactly the way you want them. I can see particular opportunities for hard to find figures like car or truck drivers. It would also be nice to not have every engineer posed exactly the same way, although that can be accomplished with a #11 blade too.

Keep us posted,

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Posted by TheGamp on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:09 PM

BigDaddy, thank you. I'm certainly not trying to run afoul of any rules. I'll review the sticky. 

ButI'm perplexed because the pictures (Google Photos) show up for me. 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:39 PM

I tried using Google Photo and it only worked for those with a Google Account.  I have a Google Account and I can see the pictures.
 
Now I post pictures from Google Blogger, that seems to work.
 
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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:53 PM

There is no punishment so you are safe.  I did see someone's google pics once.  Maybe they were Mel's.  I use gmail all the time, but I don't know why I could see them once and only once. 

Links to HOSeeker.com are the same way.  You can see them but no one else can.  Dunno why, not my pay grade. Surprise

 
 

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Posted by shahomy on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:00 PM

"I've put together a 3D-scanning system based around an XBox 360 Kinect video game sensor and 3D printer."

Holy cow!

Good job, and it sounds pretty technical...would like to hear about some details on how you did this...

Am i ever gonna be able to lay any track???

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Posted by TheGamp on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:39 AM

Shahomy,
There seem to be a lot of support for 3D scanning with the Kinect sensor. I had the game system lying around gathering dust and thought I'd try. There's a gentleman known as The Great Fredini from the Coney Island Sideshows that has shared his turntable and vertical-motion scanner platform designs on the web. There are a couple of software packages available (I've been using Skanect).

I modified Fredini's hand-cranked platform by adding a motorized belt-drive for the Kinect sensor and some software for sending it up/down/pause/speed and a self timer so I could do 3D selfies.

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Posted by shahomy on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:47 AM

Thanks Gamp, i`m gonna ck it out

Am i ever gonna be able to lay any track???

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:41 AM

HO figures are pretty small, and you can do a lot with simple techniques to create unique characters.  I started these with cheap unpainted figures.

I used a razor saw and glue to re-position arms.  A tube of Squadron Putty made one figure a bit larger around the middle and gave others hats.

Next, just craft paint and a small brush.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by TheGamp on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:32 AM

I'm not expecting to suddenly make kitbashing go the way of the dinosaur or anything. I just thought it'd be fun to be able to make figures of my friends with the costuming and poses I want without going blind in the process.  

MB, you're not far from me. I'm going to try to do some fine tuning on my scan rig for a few hours on Saturday at the makerspace I belong to in Lowell.  Let me know if you wanna give it a whirl (literally).

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Posted by HO-Velo on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:40 PM

"What'll they think of next."  That's really neat, especially the 1:18 figure, & I dig the get-up.  The possibilities for 3D scanning must be endless, like doing a holiday scene with the entire family, that is if one could get them all to sit still for a scan.

Thanks and regards,  Peter

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Posted by -E-C-Mills on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:51 PM

Count me in as definitely interested.  There's going to be so much you can do with a scanner and 3D printer.  Looking forward to updates.

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Posted by TheGamp on Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:06 AM

Thanks guys. If I make any progress I'll hunt down a new photo host first!

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Posted by msrrkevin on Sunday, November 12, 2017 3:06 PM

People have HO figures for sale on Shapeways:

http://shpws.me/ExON

I havent bought any or designed my own yet - but seems viable.

 

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Posted by TheGamp on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:22 PM

Here's a couple I printed this weekend in 1:12 (gifts for the victi...cough...models) after i got back from the scan party I hosted in NYC. Seventeen folks volunteered to get turned into ones and zeroes.


I'm not sure that even swapping to a 0.15mm nozzle on my printer will work well for 1:87, so once I've processed all the scans I'll probably group them together for Shapeways to print out in frosted extreme detail.


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Posted by msrrkevin on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:02 PM

Wow - cool.  And a little creepy at the same time :)

- Kevin

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Posted by TheGamp on Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:49 AM

Today I got my first round of HO scale pals back from Shapeways. I'm having a hard time focusing the cell phone camera but you get the idea.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:04 AM

This is one of the more imaginative uses I've seen of 3D printing for model railroad purposes. 
Got any engineer/fireman-looking friends with Kromer caps and bib overalls that would model for steam locomotive crews?  Some seated poses for both engineer and fireman and perhaps a couple standing or leaning out of the cab windows? 
I'd certainly be interested if the cost weren't outrageous, and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only taker, either.

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Posted by TheGamp on Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:05 PM

Thanks, Wayne. Once I conveniently ignore the costs of the hardware and electonics to build the turntable and scan rail, scan software, driving to and from NY and getting a hotel room for the night, then renting a photo studio and buying pizza and drinks to bribe a few dozen friends to pose, followed by a couple of hours editing each scan, then the plastic filament and about 10 hours apiece for 3D printing the freebies in 1/12 scale, then shipping said freebies, then a few hours more editing to make Shapeways happy at 1/87, they cost about two bucks and change a pop  if you bundle 8-10 together.Big Smile

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, January 12, 2018 1:33 AM

Two bucks isn't at all out of line, in my opinion, especially since I have only nine more steam locomotives to build for my layout. And 8 and 10 together is enough to populate all nine cabs.

Although, on re-reading your reply, do I detect more that a hint of sarcasm? Whistling

Still, it's one of the best suggestions I've seen here involving this technology.  Others have mentioned rolling stock and structures, but most of those are easily done using traditional methods and materials, and minimal technical expertise.

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Posted by TheGamp on Friday, January 12, 2018 8:54 AM

No, merely recounting some of the non-recurring engineering costs that ultimately make it unlikely I'll be giving Preiser a run for their money.

But it's been interesting seeing how the tech developments that inspired me to participate in this hobby are viewed by others. 

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, January 12, 2018 10:51 AM

TheGamp

No, merely recounting some of the non-recurring engineering costs that ultimately make it unlikely I'll be giving Preiser a run for their money.

But it's been interesting seeing how the tech developments that inspired me to participate in this hobby are viewed by others. 

 

But that is because of scale (not the size one). Fiqure out the cost of 1000 of the same peice. Would pay for scaned pidgeons, no realy good ones out there and alot would like to buy 20 or more at a time. You might be able to scan stuffed ones. In fact you could even turn this into a buisness selling scansed peices to museums for resale to visitors, always a way to get your stuff for free. (P.S., I really would buy scaned  1/87 scale pidgeons).

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Posted by TheGamp on Friday, January 12, 2018 11:38 AM

rrebell

 Would pay for scaned pidgeons, no realy good ones out there and alot would like to buy 20 or more at a time. You might be able to scan stuffed ones. 

 
Interesting idea. I figure a pigeon in 1/87 would be stretching the printability limits given the current technology (I had to make the second guy from the left's Neapolitan pizza slice the scale thickness of a Sicilian slice for Shapeways to print it), but I'll have to see if anyone near me does taxidermy and borrow some subjects to try out.
 
Edit: Here's someone who has a pigeon modeled in N scale. It appears to be a single pose repeated 120x with the wings tucked , but recognizeable as a bird. 
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Posted by rrebell on Friday, January 12, 2018 1:17 PM

Need HO, and was thinking of shapeways, once you have the scan, you can build to any scale and as shapeways gets beter machines, they can use the same scan. Seams they are hard to find in O scale too. Seagulls would be another one. Don't get me wrong, there is stuff out there, just they are sculpted and many poorly.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, January 12, 2018 5:10 PM

That turned out really well, but I can't help but think I am looking at HO scale ghosts.

Mommy Mommy  Crying

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 12, 2018 9:03 PM

MisterBeasley
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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This thread really is a horse of a different color!

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Whistling

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