I see that MicroMark offers textured papers for brick, cobblestone, etc. Has anyone used these papers, and is the texture realistic? I might be interested in the cobblestone version for a street.
Modeling the Baltimore waterfront in HO scale
I use these when making wargaming terrain pieces, and they work great.
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They would not meet my needs for model railroading. Maybe in a background building or interior wall details, but definitely not out where they can be scrutinized.
If I have time I will post a picture when I am back at home this weekend.
-Kevin
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Jumijo I might be interested in the cobblestone version for a street.
EDIT This is 1:24 it is styrene not as promising as I thought:
http://modelbuilderssupply.com/building-materials/plastic-paper-patterned-sheets/stone-pebbles/patt-sht-7x12-cobblestone-1-24-cob-2/#null
Baltimore has what is called Belgian block Some of the model stuff i see looks more like flagstone
Henry
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BigDaddy Jumijo I might be interested in the cobblestone version for a street. This looks promising, it is styrene: http://modelbuilderssupply.com/building-materials/plastic-paper-patterned-sheets/stone-pebbles/patt-sht-7x12-cobblestone-1-24-cob-2/#null
This looks promising, it is styrene:
The description indicates it's 1:24 scale. Might be OK for G scale, but nothing else. Their other stone patterns include a few 1:48 (O scale) and a few at 1:100 which would be undersized for HO.
Ray
Chooch has some "cobblestone" that may work for you.
http://www.choochenterprises.com/HOroads.html
MB Klein has a pretty good stock of it...
Noch, Bush and Heiki all make several varieties of a foam-type roadway material but, to my eye, there really isn't much relief there, not much better than the paper stuff.
Vacuum-formed styrene, likewise, isn't going to offer very much "detail".
Good Luck, Ed
I missed that. I have edited my post. I found their site from another site, it didn't mention the 1:24
Henry, I will be modeling Baltimore streets. Thank you for the info.
Ed, nice stuff, but they sure aren't giving it away, are they?
I might "cobble" together an image and print it on rough watercolor paper as an inexpensive experiment.
Plastruct makes all kinds of patterned sheets in many textures...cobblestone streets being one of them in all scales. They are around .20'' thick with very distinct patterns.......perfect for streets... styrene and ABS can be cut with scissors.....if interested:
https://plastruct.com/about/catalog-download/
Take Care!
Frank
Thank you for the link, Frank. I didn't see any HO cobblestones. They did have dressed block in O and 1/12 scale though.
The cinder block sheets that micromark has do look good and take weathering. A little to well. But good
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I did a lot of experimenting making bricks for the walls on the inside of my roundhouse. The commercial products were not worth the price IMO and after a search on youtube found a guy that used full sheet (8-1/2 x 11)) label paper. It is already sticky one side of course so application was a breeze. I used "Avery" Labels I got at Staples.
The relief on the commercial products was minimal at best on the ones I have examined. The advantage of printing your own is you can get exactly what you want off Google images. Just use regular paper until you get the brick size adjusted right. You should have seen me holding my little ruler up to the computer screen
On cobble stone streets the size of the stones or bricks would be smaller on hills or at loading docks where the horse would need better traction to get started or to go up a hill. This is why you see different sized bricks in different locations.
In Vancouver there are still spots where the cobbles have not been paved over and as a kid with my nose up against the window of the old Pontiac I always thought it was sloppy work that the stones were not a consistent size, but then I became a model railroader and became wiser.
Brent
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Brent, I've decided to try exactly as you suggested. I downloaded a few images and pieced them together in Powerpoint. I think the texture or depth between the stones in HO scale would be minimal, so the watercolor paper might work out. I've already printed some on plain old bond paper as an experiment. The next step is to mount these on illustration board and weather them.
Jumijo Thank you for the link, Frank. I didn't see any HO cobblestones. They did have dressed block in O and 1/12 scale though.
I see You decided to give Batman's way a shot......should that not work out for You...what I used was the Plastruct Rough Brick 91605 Red For some of My streets.
https://www.walthers.com/patterned-sheets-rough-brick-020-x-7-x-12-quot-pkg-2-150-quot-red-bricks?ref=1
The bricks are rounded on the face and some are randomly higher/lower throughout the pattern. I was born in Chgo 1942 and many of the streets were that way, with streetcar tracks in the center, which by the way were very noisy running on that brick...as was any type vehicle.....especially wagons with steel rim wooden wheels...or hard rubber tire trucks.....also bumpy. Impossible to use steel wheel roller skates on...LOL. The concrete side walks back then were no better.....they were course grain finish...sounded awful and created a lot of drag. I didn't actually roller skate.....I only used the skates for wheels on My home made scooter......a 2x4, with a old wood milk crate and two wood handles to hold on to. Hardest thing in the world to try to nail anything into the wood of those milk crates. And yes...our milk was delivered with a horse and wagon as was our ice for our modern ice box (refrigerator). Coal was delivered by a solid tire Mack chain drive dump truck to feed the octopus style furnace in the basement......Memories.....
Good Luck on Your project!!
Thank you again for another link, Frank. I originally got the idea of paper cobblestone streets from the Arkham layout, set in the early 20th century. My first choice would be some kind of textured plastic or card.
Well, as I said I would... here is a picture of textured brick paper used as streets on my wargaming table.
The paper is HO, but the models are 1/100 scale, so the bricks are a bit large.
It actually looks better in the picture than in real life. My new 10mm wide angle lens rocks!
I can definitely see texture in the bricks. It sems to have indentations where the mortar lines are running forground to background, but I can't see any between each brick. Thanks for the photo!
For durability (very important in wargaming), I applied multiple layers of Matte Medium. This filled in at least 3/4 of the texture. Sorry.
SeeYou190For durability
Durability is why I used Avery labels, It is tough stuff and combined with weathering powders it looks good. Regular paper just couldn't take much wear and tear. Also, the label paper did not peel up at the edges. I had determined that rubber cement was the best glue to hold down regular and craft paper after some experimentation. There may be something I hadn't tried yet, but the self-sticking label paper worked great.
You know what, I saw this textured paper at Hobby Lobby a couple months ago. I thought it had potential but I wasn't ready to use it for anything yet.
I thought it could be easily placed between pillars on a foundation barrier wall . It was thick enough so it would work well.
It would need some doctoring up with color washes for weathering and maybe some painted lines for cracks.
I don't know, I thought I'd just throw that one out there. I'm going to check it out when I get to something like that.
Hello there
If you want to go down the path of A4 sticker paper, you could look at http://paperbrick.co.uk/index.php?action=home and generate your own style and size...
Hope this helps some of you at least
Cheers from Australia
Trevor