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Avondale Guy, Thanks for the lengthy and well thought out response. While I'm a photographer and work in a visual field, I did miserably at 3D drawing in Tech school and I'm haveing a hard time visualizing some of this. Could you either scan and post your drawing or snail mail it to me and I'll scan and post it for the good of all. I've definately thought about tunnels on both ends for the purpose of mines, but I thought would they mine and tunnle through the same MT ? But for a model RR it makes sense. I look forward to hearing more. This weekend I laid down a base of 1" Pink Foam over my roadbed, and also purchased some woodland scenics 3% risers to play with. I'm making some progress. I've also been given the go ahead to take up 6' more of wall space. I need to span a closet, so it will need to be removable, but this gives me 6' more to get up to the grade. Thanks to all. I'll post pics when I start laying track. Dave
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