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Alternative building use ideas...
Posted by TheMinnesotan on Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:01 AM

Hello all,

I picked up a junk box at a model railroading meet. In the lot I received a fine condition Walthers Northern Light and Power building.

My question: Have any of you used it for modeling any other industry or have any ideas on alternative uses for it?

I always find it facinating and motivating to see and learn from other's kit bashing ideas. 

Modeling the Chicago Great Western and Milwaukee Road along Minnesota's Cannon River Valley.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, November 10, 2016 6:18 PM

I'm not familiar with the Walthers model, but I am familiar with an interesting prototype situation.

In Rapid City, SD, there is a sturdily-built masonry structure, once an electrical distribution substation.  When I was there it was the home of Landstrom's Black Hills Gold - a jewelry factory.  Given that there were probably millions of dollars of materials and product present, it made sense to use a building armored like Fort Knox.

Unfortunately, there was no rail service.  I suspect that a full week's production would make a light load for an armored truck.

Don't know what the situation is now.  I left many years ago, never to return.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - black diamonds, no gold)

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:22 PM

Here is a link to the Walthers catalogue page:

https://www.walthers.com/northern-light-power-powerhouse-kit-12-3-4-x-6-1-2-x-7-quot-31-8-x-16-2-x-17-5cm

I could see the building used as a heavy duty engine house. You might have to raise the height of the building if the door isn't tall enough but that wouldn't be too difficult. You just add to the foundation. If it came with an interior was there an overhead crane? That would be perfect for an engine facility. If you are doing steam then the smoke stack could stay suggesting an on-site foundry. If you're into diesels then the smoke stack might have to go.

Dave

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Posted by HO-Velo on Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:04 PM

Though didn't kit-bash mine, it was a fun build.  In a few ways the structure kinda reminds me of the old Heinz building in Berkeley, Ca., that at one time produced around 28 of the famed 57 varieties.  That type of factory would make for some nice rail traffic.  

Have also seen the structure used as a newspaper printing building.  In that capacity it could be rail served bringing in the big rolls of blank newsprint paper.  Some printing presses would make for some fun and interesting interior modeling too.

Have fun, regards,  Peter

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Posted by cowman on Friday, November 11, 2016 9:36 AM

Could be used for a warehouse, machine shop, woodworking shop, put in a second floor and have offices in the lower part with one of the above on the well lit second floor.  Another single level thought, large truck repair shop.

Even if it were a rail served industry, it needent still be.  Could either have old, derelict train car setting on the abandoned siding (one with 6" trees growing up around it in the next town) or the siding torn up.

Have fun,

Richard

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Posted by SpartanCook on Friday, November 11, 2016 10:52 AM

What era are you modeling? I have seen a building just like this in Iowa City that is currently being used as a restaurant and i have seen multiple buildings like this used as a brewery or apartment buildings. But that is modern day

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, November 11, 2016 12:15 PM
How about a city water works pumping station. It could receive equipment like pumps and large valves as well as additives to the water by bag in a box car or tank cars.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, November 11, 2016 12:35 PM

SpartanCook

What era are you modeling? I have seen a building just like this in Iowa City that is currently being used as a restaurant and i have seen multiple buildings like this used as a brewery or apartment buildings. But that is modern day

 

I'm originally from the area, but have never ate there.

http://www.iowariverpower.net/irp-history.html

Jeff

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, November 11, 2016 8:22 PM

I built this from DPM Modular sections:

It has a rail-served covered siding on the right, and a high-window section on the left.  I called the building "Moose Mills" and built a non-specific interior, using the large window in the front to showcase the insides.

To me, the large windows demand an interesting interior.  My "Moose Mills" company could be a steel mill or a cotton mill.  It's up to the viewers' imaginations.

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Posted by dknelson on Friday, November 11, 2016 8:49 PM

I agree with the the poster above who suggested a "water works" - it has that look to it.  Also, a type of business long since disappeared which is coal gas manufacturer -- burning coal in an oxygen free atmosphere to produce gas, with coke as a by product.  Those tall windows were a feature of many such plants.

It also slightly reminds me of some old school gym buildings.  

Of course is does also look like a power plant, and remember that back in the day, many big factories had their own power plant.  An excellent kitbash expansion of the kit is on this website

http://midwestnpioneer.org/oldsite/east/powerplant.html 

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Posted by TheMinnesotan on Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:42 AM

Thanks all for all the great ideas. I enjoy seeing how others re-assign or kitbash these kits. As a new modeler getting into this hobby a bit late, it's all too easy to let the kit companies kind of dictate your layout. Thanks again for your input and guidance on thinking outside of the "kit" box. For me this could be it's own thread catagory. Skol !

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, November 12, 2016 12:20 PM

Walthers also makes an interior kit for this model.

https://www.walthers.com/interior-kit-for-northern-light-power-powerhouse

Even with this interior, there's nothing that says it has to be a powerhouse.  Whatever sign you put on it determines what it is.

I mostly think of kits, particularly the 4-walls-and-a-roof models, as templates on which to create my own buildings.

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:54 PM

The interior kit is worth the price just for the crane. If you were to splurge on two of them you could run the crane the whole length of the building.

Dave

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Posted by garya on Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:22 PM

dknelson

I agree with the the poster above who suggested a "water works" - it has that look to it.  Also, a type of business long since disappeared which is coal gas manufacturer -- burning coal in an oxygen free atmosphere to produce gas, with coke as a by product.  Those tall windows were a feature of many such plants. 

Walthers makes several buildings for coal gas plants, especially the holder:

https://www.walthers.com/gas-storage-tank-kit-9-7-8-quot-24-6cm-diameter-x-9-1-8-quot-22-8cm-tall

I wish I had room for one...

Gary

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Posted by davidmurray on Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:43 PM

dknelson
Of course is does also look like a power plant, and remember that back in the day, many big factories had their own power plant. An excellent kitbash expansion of the kit is on this website

As late as 2004 the ex-GM parts fabrication plant in Oshawa still had its own power plant.  Producing power, compressed air and heat for the plant.

Dave

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:51 PM

Hi,

I have both the Power & Light and the later iteration as the Empire Gas Works. From a view toward kitbashing I'd like to point out that the window mullions are a bit finer on the Empire and you also get all the neat piping and tanks thrown in for good measure.

https://www.walthers.com/gas-plant-w-washing-tank-kit-16-1-2-x-7-7-8-x-7-7-8-quot-41-2-x-19-6-x-19-6cm

If a detailed interior is in your plans, consider the Empire Gas kit since the window moldings are much nicer. Only the end walls are different from the Power & Light.

Unfortunately, Walthers has nearly doubled the price on the Empire compared to the cost of the Northern Power kit.

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Posted by joe323 on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:01 AM

garya

 

 
dknelson

I agree with the the poster above who suggested a "water works" - it has that look to it.  Also, a type of business long since disappeared which is coal gas manufacturer -- burning coal in an oxygen free atmosphere to produce gas, with coke as a by product.  Those tall windows were a feature of many such plants. 

 

 

Walthers makes several buildings for coal gas plants, especially the holder:

https://www.walthers.com/gas-storage-tank-kit-9-7-8-quot-24-6cm-diameter-x-9-1-8-quot-22-8cm-tall

I wish I had room for one...

 

Yes I would love to get 2 and replicate the GAS HEATS BEST Elmhurst gas tanks of my youth.

Joe Staten Island West 

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:47 AM

Whistling

It would also make a fine BREWERY.  That would be my choice.

Johnboy out............

from Saskatchewan, in the Great White North.. 

We have met the enemy,  and he is us............ (Pogo)

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