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HO truck and car tires
Posted by rrebell on Sunday, June 21, 2015 10:33 AM

For the layout I need separate truck and car tires, prefer the real rubber ones, these will be left in varius places around the layout. The era is 1930's. See some from Lonestar and other but have not a clue which ones to get or should I just get some from store bought toy cars and toss the cars or scarafice a few Jordan cars for the wheels? Also need some 24' vans from that era.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:18 AM

sylvanscalemodels

offer a fairly extensive line of vehicle kits which come with rubber (or rubber-like) tires.  I'm not sure if they're available separately, but it wouldn't hurt to contact the owner, Clare Gilbert, to ask.

Wayne

 

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Posted by zstripe on Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:32 PM

Rrebell,

Sylvan does not sell the tires separately to my knowledge. I have hundred's of truck tires from them, that I do not use....I only use their car tires. I replace the Sylvan tires with A-Line truck tires, they are a little taller, but have more detail and are way easier to clean up than the Sylvan's....plus the vehicles I build roll...the Sylvan's do not, so You can't use the wheels from them either. They are static models. If You are interested in some of the truck tires I have, send Me a PM and I'll send You a couple Dz. Free...I have no use for as many as I have. I have at least 50 of their Kits that I have built over the past three yrs. for Myself and a few others.

Here is a link to the A-Line truck tires, should You want it.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/116-50104

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:27 PM

I'll let you know. Thanks for the A-line link. I just need to know the sizing of the A-line and others as 1930's truck tires are smaller than todays.

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, June 22, 2015 4:14 AM

The sizing on the truck tires/heavy duty truck has been 9:00X20, 10.00x20 tube tires from the mid 30's to well in today. Spoke split ring wheels, Railroads used them on all their piggyback trailers/chassis, they are called Dayton wheels. Then they come out with 5 hole Budd wheels which were also tube type and then tubeless. They were all bias tires which were more narrow. Then You have starting in the mid 50's 10:00x22 tubeless, 11:00x22 tubeless, 11:00X24 tubeless,bias and radial. Most commercial trucks you see today, run the 11:00x22 radials with ten hole budd Aluminum fronts and two hole steel rears. I preferred the 11:00x24 ten hole Aluminum fronts and two hole steel 11:00x24 rears, but what is called luggers, looks like a snow tire and great for all Weather running, which is what I did.

So using those tires for what You want, would be about correct and You'll be in the ball-park......besides most people would not know anyway!

Here is a direct link to Arrow Hobbies/A-Line, Walthers does not stock everything....so I use Arrow direct, I go through a lot of parts and they give me a discount:

http://www.ppw-aline.com/detlveh.htm

 

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Posted by rrebell on Monday, June 22, 2015 10:12 AM

zstripe

The sizing on the truck tires/heavy duty truck has been 9:00X20, 10.00x20 tube tires from the mid 30's to well in today. Spoke split ring wheels, Railroads used them on all their piggyback trailers/chassis, they are called Dayton wheels. Then they come out with 5 hole Budd wheels which were also tube type and then tubeless. They were all bias tires which were more narrow. Then You have starting in the mid 50's 10:00x22 tubeless, 11:00x22 tubeless, 11:00X24 tubeless,bias and radial. Most commercial trucks you see today, run the 11:00x22 radials with ten hole budd Aluminum fronts and two hole steel rears. I preferred the 11:00x24 ten hole Aluminum fronts and two hole steel 11:00x24 rears, but what is called luggers, looks like a snow tire and great for all Weather running, which is what I did.

So using those tires for what You want, would be about correct and You'll be in the ball-park......besides most people would not know anyway!

Here is a direct link to Arrow Hobbies/A-Line, Walthers does not stock everything....so I use Arrow direct, I go through a lot of parts and they give me a discount:

http://www.ppw-aline.com/detlveh.htm

 

Take Care! Big Smile

Frank

Member ATHS for many year's. (American Truck Historical Society)

 

So, how about  the A-line #50104, also saw the Promtex 5358? Last would the Athearn 24' trailers be good enough or do you have another suggestion?

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, June 22, 2015 5:36 PM

Rrebell,

The A-Line #50104's would be fine...they are vinyl/rubber. The Promotex tire's are plastic and a little oversize for 1/87. Their tractors/trailers are equipped with them, they will sit a little higher than others. I also don't care for their large kingpin and large fifth wheel hole. I have a number of the 27ft trailers from them, but I modify them...lower the suspension so they sit lower, cut off large kingpin and replace with a #0 3/8 wood screw with the head cut off. They will fit in the Intermodal fifth wheel trailer hitch mounts on all the flat cars that way. Oh! For my era....I also cut off the swinging doors on the backs and replace with roll-up doors, 96'' wide. The Athearn 24' trailers are from the 50's piggyback era...so not good for the 30's. This one from Sylvan is right in the ball park....a 22ft rib side....You'll notice the landing gear...the whole thing rolls up with steel wheels. In the fourties and even early fifties they were still around, but only used by Marshall Field's and Speigal in Chgo/NYC, Exclusively pulled by R&V Cartage, that had vacuum brakes and six volt system. Very hard to steal. Here is a link to it:

http://www.sylvanscalemodels.com/kits/T001.htm

26ft 1954 era...Piggyback...remember..these are kits. You add Your decals:

http://www.sylvanscalemodels.com/kits/T002.htm

I get all my truck decals here. I have some custom made and She incorporated them in Her catalog, which I didn't mind...She will make any You want, at a fair price. She took over, after Her dad passed. They are very thin vinyl, crisp color. Not hard at all to apply, with patience....I like them a lot better than water slide.

http://store.graphicsdemand.com/#

 

 

Remember, they are static models, they do not roll, Polyurthene resin kits and great detail. now those tires would be perfect for Your era.....the same as I offered You, rubber/vinyl.

A pic of the Promotex 27ft trailer that I converted... I did ten of them.

Take Care! Big Smile

Frank

EDIT: I forgot to mention...Alloy Forms Inc. makes a lot of 1930's truck kits. They are white metal castings and Pewter, CA is used exclusively in building them....they are not for the novice builder though. They do make great models though: The Blue truck in the pic', is a Alloy Forms white metal casting kit.

http://scale-structures.com/brands/Alloy-Forms-Trucks.html

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:11 AM

Scale Structures has quite a few of them.

http://scale-structures.com/search.php?search_query=tires&x=0&y=0

Many of these are unpainted metal, but with a bit of black craft paint they come out very nicely.

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