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My finished FSM/John Allen engine house.

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My finished FSM/John Allen engine house.
Posted by Graffen on Saturday, June 20, 2015 6:05 PM

Hi all.

I started on a new build the other day.

A FSM kit: The two stall engine house. 

It is a very nice kit with one big setback: the windows...... I made my own with slide covers.

This is how it looks now after a few days work:

 

 

 

 

The windows were made with a technical pen on slide covers that I had cut with a diamond tip scriber..

I made a template for the mullions.

 

 

 

Any ideas on the interior? I would like to make this building with lights and full interior.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 20, 2015 6:29 PM

Graffen
Any ideas on the interior? I would like to make this building with lights and full interior.

Hello Graffen,

I have always admired the FSM kits from Mr. Sellios and it looks like you are going to have a beautiful example there.

May I suggest some of these resin castings from Rusty Rail...

http://rustyrail.com/CastingsHOScale.htm

I have many of these castings from Rick and Mary and the detail is astounding and, I believe, an excellent value. One of the resaons I suggest some of these is because the work benches and shelves are pretty linear so would fit along the walls and down the center of the shed.

Take a good look at some of the "junk piles" Rusty Rails offers, too. They look great piled up along the outside walls and helps to make the structure look "planted".

Take a look at the gallery page for some nice examples:

http://rustyrail.com/ClientPhotosPage.htm

Good luck and keep us posted with your progress.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, June 20, 2015 8:03 PM

There are two versions of this from FSM. The first had the celuloid windows and the second had plastic. I have the second which also came with castings. This is one kit that always seems to build up nice!

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Posted by Graffen on Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:06 PM

Thanks all!

I looked at some other engine house builds and got really inspired so I got busy right away, the kit had some rather nice castings which I added with some from the scrap box.

:D

 

 

It is a bit fiddly to paint the small details, but  with good light it works alright.

 

 

 

 

I think it is getting there. 

Thanks again.

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Posted by damigg on Monday, June 22, 2015 4:57 AM

Fantastic! What a great job you are doing with this kit. I would love to do this build but it is so hard to find it. I had it sniped from me a couple of times from ebay. I kin of wish some one would release it again. Anyway you will have to get pics of it on the layout.

Great Job!!

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, June 22, 2015 6:22 AM

Hi Graffen:

The exterior looks fantastic, and you did a really great job on the windows. The detail painting is superb. The mortar on the foundation stones is inspiring! Your work is excellent as usual!

As for the interior, I'm not seeing the sort of stud wall construction that would seem to go with the exterior wood framed walls. Perhaps I'm missing something, but even with the post and beam structure there would have to be something to nail the exterior cladding to between the posts. The nail marks on the outside suggest as much. I would suggest measuring the spacing on the exterior nail marks and adding an interior stud wall structure based on the nail mark positions. (Please read my comments below on lighting before starting work on the interior walls.)

The other thing that seems to be missing is any sort of interior framing detail around the windows. The window/wall joint is just too flat IMHO. In a frame structure, window openings would have had a jamb liner, usually a 1" x 6" or 1" x 8" board 'box' installed in the wall into which the window would be mounted. If the interior of the building was not finished the jamb would be visible. There also might be an interior sill very similar to what you have done on the outside, and possibly some interior window trim, although the 'rough' nature of the structure might have precluded such fancy finishing.

For interior lighting I'm going to assume that electricity was available in your era. I would suggest some form of 'goose neck' lighting at intervals along the walls as well as a few overhead lamps with round 'pool room' style shades. Goose neck lamps can be made very easily using 0603 or 0402 LEDs, or Miniatronics 1.5 V bulbs. The bulbs look a lot better IMHO but they won't last as long as the LEDs. As you are no doubt already aware, bulb life can be extended by reducing the voltage.

For the goose neck lamps I use 30 ga. solid core insulated wire as opposed to stranded wire. To form the goose necks I simply CA the two wires together, let it dry, and then use my Kadee coupler pin pliers to form the bends. I have used Tichy Train Group lamp shades with the centers drilled out. Here is an example of the lamps that I have made. These ones are using 1.5 V bulbs:

Alternately, if you want to use LEDs, Ngineering sells all the components and bending jigs to form the goose necks out of aluminum tube. They also sell shades. You will have to use magnet wire for the leads so you can fish them through the tubing.

http://www.ngineering.com/ho_lighting_kits.htm

I mentioned above that you should consider the wiring before finishing the interior. If you are going to install a lot of lights you can hide the wiring easily by making a separate 'false' interior wall and putting the wiring between the false wall and the exterior wall.

I hope you don't feel that I am trying to take your project over. These are just a few suggestions for your wise consideration.

Regards

Dave

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Posted by reklein on Monday, June 22, 2015 3:09 PM

Nice work both you guys. I'm currently tring to build Clever Models HO John Allen engine house. In card board, It been a challenge.   BILL

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:06 PM

Graffen

The windows were made with a technical pen on slide covers that I had cut with a diamond tip scriber..

I made a template for the mullions.

 

 

Nice work.  Could you (or another reader) clarify for my benefit what you mean by a "technical pen"? 

Dave Nelson

 

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Posted by Graffen on Friday, June 26, 2015 11:17 AM

dknelson

 

 
Graffen

The windows were made with a technical pen on slide covers that I had cut with a diamond tip scriber..

I made a template for the mullions.

 

 

 

Nice work.  Could you (or another reader) clarify for my benefit what you mean by a "technical pen"? 

Dave Nelson

 

 

It is a ruling pen, the kind with blades and an adjusting screw.

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Posted by Graffen on Friday, June 26, 2015 11:20 AM

HOn3critter, thanks for the input!

I have ordered some roof lights!

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Posted by Graffen on Friday, June 26, 2015 11:22 AM

 

I have finished the build (sort of....).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Feels good!

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Posted by wp8thsub on Friday, June 26, 2015 5:40 PM

Nice work!  The foundation in particular really turned out well.

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Posted by Graffen on Saturday, June 27, 2015 4:42 PM

wp8thsub

Nice work!  The foundation in particular really turned out well.

 

Thanks!

This is the pic I am most satisfied with so far:

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, June 28, 2015 9:10 AM

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You definatly have some skill and you pen work is right on, remember those from architecture class, not an easy tool to use and get right!

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Posted by SouthPenn on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:42 AM

Awesome!

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Posted by tedtedderson on Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:10 PM

Graffen, 

This is really cool. Nice photography. Congratulations. 

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Posted by maxman on Sunday, June 28, 2015 3:03 PM

Now that the model is complete, are you going to burn it down like John Allen did so that you can build a replacement?

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Posted by mobilman44 on Sunday, June 28, 2015 4:06 PM

OUTSTANDING !!!!

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by wabash2800 on Sunday, June 28, 2015 10:44 PM

It looks fantastic, but I would have had a pit in at least one of the tracks. And the floor is going to get really filthy from the grime and grease and oil falling off the locomotive.

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Posted by Graffen on Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:55 PM

wabash2800

It looks fantastic, but I would have had a pit in at least one of the tracks. And the floor is going to get really filthy from the grime and grease and oil falling off the locomotive.

 

Yes, but there IS a pit!

:-)

It is on the outside track where the railcar is...

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Posted by Southgate on Monday, June 29, 2015 3:41 AM

Beautiful build. I do have to agree with the comments about framing, and black grime on the floor, but not adding them won't kill ya. Those outdoor shots are amazing. Sunlight and photography bring out any flaws in fit and finish. I don't see any.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, June 29, 2015 4:08 AM

Graffen

Does that railcar work? It's very nicely done, and it has given me yet another idea for a new critter.

Dave

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