What I am looking for is the old style General 1251 with the edge starting 0 instead of the new ones with the same model number that start at -1 from the edge. Just like this type better after using both types for years. It would have been great if they changed model numbers with a change in markings!
The 6" with the round end? If so Lowes has them, and I would assume the other big box stores do as well.
CGW121 The 6" with the round end? If so Lowes has them, and I would assume the other big box stores do as well.
rrebell What I am looking for is the old style General 1251 with the edge starting 0 instead of the new ones with the same model number that start at -1 from the edge. Just like this type better after using both types for years. It would have been great if they changed model numbers with a change in markings!
i just took mine and cut off the -1 with my break/shear.
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Are You talking about the one with the 3'' and 9'' mark before the 1 foot mark, scale 87ft foot long? Mine is so old some of the black marking has come off. HO scale, S-scale and O- scale. 64th's, mm,drill tap, number drills on back. I have even used it on my machine drawings. Very well made.
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The new ones start a -1' at the edge so it stays exact even if the edge gets damaged (I have one of those too). The one I am looking for starts at 0' which I need as the way I use this one. Yes I can use the other but it can lead to errors for me that sometines I miss after the cut.
Old Carpenters saying, " Measure twice >>> cut once"
Works almost every time...... Lol.
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I sometimes have to cut twice and it is still too short!
LOL, acually these responces to a serius question anoy me.
I feel your pain, you are looking for advice/help on a given subject, it's important to you, but for some reason others think it's a time to joke around. I hope you get the advice you need.
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NP2626Why they did this is beyond comprehension! They could just as easily have divided the 0-1 graduation into the smaller graduations.
The reason is very simple and logical. Just like the three sided scales I was taught to use in mechanical drawing in 1970. Did you notice that the fine scale to the left of zero goes backwards? You set the mark on the right to the rounded down nearest full inch, then read the the fraction off the fine scale.
I have the right to remain silent. By posting here I have given up that right and accept that anything I say can and will be used as evidence to critique me.
carl425 NP2626 Why they did this is beyond comprehension! They could just as easily have divided the 0-1 graduation into the smaller graduations. The reason is very simple and logical. Just like the three sided scales I was taught to use in mechanical drawing in 1970. Did you notice that the fine scale to the left of zero goes backwards? You set the mark on the right to the rounded down nearest full inch, then read the the fraction off the fine scale.
NP2626 Why they did this is beyond comprehension! They could just as easily have divided the 0-1 graduation into the smaller graduations.
rrebellAccually, you are wrong on the model one (and right on the other). The reason is the ends could get banged up and cause mistakes. The one for mechical drawing stopped before the end also.
The question I responded to was about why the fine marking are to the left of the zero. The General 1251 I just looked on Amazon is set up just like I said it was.
Stopping before the end is a different question - to which your answer is correct.
If you cannot find a rule that fits your needs, why not block out, putty in, or cover the existing numbers, and re-label or engrave new ones so that your numbers start at 0 instead of -1? We are modelers after all, improvisation and modification are our core tools.
I don't know why You find it so hard to use the one that shows, the 3'' and 9'' mark from ''0'' being the left end of the rule, then to the 1ft mark.....Mine has got to be over 50 plus year's old and the ends are not damaged or rounded at all, just some of the paint is missing where I spilled lacquer thinner on it. I like it because you can measure a inside corner with it and not have to add or subtract any. It is stainless steel....they are pretty robust. It actually starts at zero, but zero is the end of the ruler. I'm a stickler when it comes to tools of any kind, so I do take care of them.
I understand what the thinking behind it is and in the second paragraph of my post, had you read it, I explain how I use it. It doesn't mean I think it's the best way of providing a measuring tool; nor, that I like it. I took all the drafting classes in high school and got high marks. Then, I went on to become a tool and die maker/designer; so, I have some experience in using drafting equipment. I also know enough to know what I like and don't like and I don't like this aspect of these scales. You do and that is great!
zstripe I don't know why You find it so hard to use the one that shows, the 3'' and 9'' mark from ''0'' being the left end of the rule, then to the 1ft mark.....Mine has got to be over 50 plus year's old and the ends are not damaged or rounded at all, just some of the paint is missing where I spilled lacquer thinner on it. I like it because you can measure a inside corner with it and not have to add or subtract any. It is stainless steel....they are pretty robust. It actually starts at zero, but zero is the end of the ruler. I'm a stickler when it comes to tools of any kind, so I do take care of them. Take Care! Frank
Sorry, when you said:
NP2626Why they did this is beyond comprehension!
I believed you.
carl425 Sorry, when you said: NP2626 Why they did this is beyond comprehension! I believed you.
NP2626 Why they did this is beyond comprehension!
This was a bit of an over zelous remark on my part. So, I changed it to "beyond me".
However, wouldn't we all be better off if we just put down our own opinions and not worry about what the other guy said?
NP2626However, wouldn't we all be better off if we just put down our own opinions and not worry about what the other guy said?
OK, it is my opinion that you asked a question so I answered.
And if you really care what would make us all better off, if somebody answers a question you don't think was asked, just let it go rather than posting your resume to justify taking offense when none was intended.
Sheez - can't we all just get along?
Sheez is right!
This is absolutly amazing to me! A simple topic about what we like/dislike in a ruler can turn into a Battle Royal, for some!
Excuss me for even having any opinion! Let alone being taken to task for making a flippent comment!
Your turn now Carl425!
rrebellWhat I am looking for is the old style General 1251 with the edge starting 0 instead of the new ones with the same model number that start at -1 from the edge.
They are not General rules, but maybe one of the following will work for you:
This one is do-it-yourself: http://lhonings.home.xs4all.nl/rulers.html and this is what it looks like: http://lhonings.home.xs4all.nl/images/rulers/HOscaleruler_mmshort.gif
This one is also do-it-yourself: http://www.rslaserkits.com/ScaleRulers.pdf
This one is an E-bay obtainable item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/150473401608?lpid=82&chn=ps. When you blow up the picture, it appears that the scale starts at "0" rather than a minus 1.
I hope this info is useful to you.
Regards
maxman rrebell What I am looking for is the old style General 1251 with the edge starting 0 instead of the new ones with the same model number that start at -1 from the edge. They are not General rules, but maybe one of the following will work for you: This one is do-it-yourself: http://lhonings.home.xs4all.nl/rulers.html and this is what it looks like: http://lhonings.home.xs4all.nl/images/rulers/HOscaleruler_mmshort.gif This one is also do-it-yourself: http://www.rslaserkits.com/ScaleRulers.pdf This one is an E-bay obtainable item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/150473401608?lpid=82&chn=ps. When you blow up the picture, it appears that the scale starts at "0" rather than a minus 1. I hope this info is useful to you. Regards
rrebell What I am looking for is the old style General 1251 with the edge starting 0 instead of the new ones with the same model number that start at -1 from the edge.