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Spray paint for concrete retaining wall
Posted by dschroeder83 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:34 AM
Hey all--

Just wondering if anyone had a recommendation for a hardware store spray paint to shoot a long "concrete" retaining wall with before weathering it. I'm building a 16"x96" shelf layout in the dining room. Expanding on a layout I found in "n scale railroader" ill post a pic of the magazine plan...can you tell me how to do that on the mobile version?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:48 AM

My personal preference in rattle-can paint is Krylon.  After that, Rustoleum.  For stone or concrete walls, get a primer and it will take weathering very well.

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Posted by binder001 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:16 AM

While many "rattle can" brands aren't ground very fine for good model paint, they work GREAT on scenery.  You can cover a lot of area at only a modest cost.  For concrete, my suggestion is to look at some of the primer gray colors.  Some might be a bit dark, but look around.  Primer has the advantage of drying to a flat (lusterless) finish in most cases.  Suggestion: look at some concrete retaining walls if you can.  Look at the color(s) you want to simulate.  With a little practice you might be able to spray a coat of gray and follow up with light swatches of light gray or white and perhaps a tan/brown to get the effect of concrete that has aged.  Practice on some cardboard or something you don't care about before you try that on your project.  The extra colors should be done in light passes from a little further away than your base coat - you don't want spots and stripes, but a light fading between colors.  By the way, I don't remember the brand but Wal Mart carries a brand of "camouflage" spray paint.  They aren't very expensive and are good for scenery because they dry dead flat.

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Posted by GP-9_Man11786 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:33 AM

My personal choice for concrete spraypaint is Testors "Flat Light Aircrat Gray."

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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:20 PM

I prefer a slightly tan shade for concrete.  i have used Tamiya rattle can TS-68 "Wooden Deck Tan" as well as Krylon Camouflage rattle can 8141 Khaki.  In both cases the color of the cap is impressively close to the color you get. (I am aware that Tamiya is more a hobby or craft shop paint not a hardware store paint).

For a gray concrete look I have used Tamiya AS-16 Light Gray (ASAF).

Actually for most of my concrete streets I have used both tan and gray -- holding a rattle can in each hand and spraying alternatively and then at the same time for a varied look that I find quite realistic.  I do not have a pic I can post but you can see a pic here (go to page 4)

http://www.mwr-nmra.org/region/waybill/waybill20093fall.pdf

and here in my Frugal Modeler column:

http://www.mwr-nmra.org/region/waybill/waybill20102summer.pdf

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Posted by Steven S on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:48 PM

I agree with Dave.  Concrete tends to be more tan than gray.  Go to the link below and scroll down to the sixth post where I describe a technique that works well.

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/228726.aspx

 

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Posted by UPinCT on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:46 PM
Testor's "flat Aircraft grey" is a great concrete color and I have used it before. But I'll vote with Mr B. and recommend Krylon flat grey primer for a concrete color. Works just as good and the color is close and is way cheaper than Testor's. Derek in CT
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Posted by dschroeder83 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:46 PM
Found a rustoleum "textured" paint color "sand" at Menards tonight. Anyone tried the textured stuff?
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Posted by NP2626 on Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:40 AM

dschroeder83
Found a rustoleum "textured" paint color "sand" at Menards tonight. Anyone tried the textured stuff?

 

I have not tried the product you mentioned.  The following is how I would do what your wanting to do:  First of all I don't do much spray painting.  I think it isn't needed.  Since my closest hobby shop is close to 90 miles away, I use locally available Acrylic paints: Delta Ceramcoat is a common Acrylic available at most craft, Dime and department stores.  It's fairly inexpensive and if capped properly seems to last for decades.  I would use gray and tan paint mixed together to get a grayish tan color for concrete and adjust the mixture until I get what I want and depending upon the darkness of the gray may even add some white to the mix.  I mix my paints in an old freight car kit box.  Then I would brush my paint onto the concrete surface.  No toxic over spray, no accumulation of unused cans of spray paint, now fussing with clogged nozzles and good looking finsh to the parts I'm painting. 

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Posted by dschroeder83 on Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:48 AM
The acrylic is a good idea, I'll pick up a few bottles and try it
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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:18 AM

dschroeder83
Found a rustoleum "textured" paint color "sand" at Menards tonight. Anyone tried the textured stuff?
 

 
I tried a textured spray can paint to mimic ballast on cork roadbed under switchpoints, following an idea suggested years ago by then-MR editor Terry Thompson.  It looked and worked "ok" but the texture would be rather grossly excessive to capture the comparatively smooth look of concrete, even in 12" to the foot scale. 
 
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:23 PM

dschroeder83
Found a rustoleum "textured" paint color "sand" at Menards tonight. Anyone tried the textured stuff?

I've used both their "textured" and "textured multi-color" paints.  Both work pretty well.  The textured came out like this:

What I like about it is the slightly rough surface.  This breaks up those "specular" reflections where you get an almost mirror-like light bounce off the surface.

The textured multicolor paint has specks in it.  This is a theater side wall:

And this is some stone work:

The multi-color paints have a lot more texture to them.  For the stone work, I used an India Ink wash to highlight the details of the Hydrocal casting.  I also like Rustoleum's multi-color black spray, which is great for roofs.

With either of these, be careful to clean out the spray head by holding the can upside-down and spraying into the air for a second or two to clear the head.  Even so, you may find it blocked and have to clear it out.

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Posted by Dannyboy6 on Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:30 PM

I've used Krylon Natural Stone Textured Finish as a base to get a concrete "feel" to the model before adding the final color. It works great on brick or cement block, and might be good for your purpose as well. 

Have fun!

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Posted by Graffen on Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:47 PM
I use Liquitex water based spray paint in the color "unbleached titanium". Works perfect.

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Posted by dschroeder83 on Friday, January 23, 2015 11:49 AM
Where do you find liquitex paints? Never heard of them
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Posted by Santa Fe all the way! on Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:24 AM
Michael's has Liquitex.
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Posted by Guy Papillon on Saturday, January 24, 2015 6:15 PM

I agree with Dave, Tamiya TS-68 "Wooden Deck Tan" is a good color for concrete. I use it with touches of light grey whenever I want a "concrete" color on plastic or wood (great for sidewalks over balsa wood).

 

 

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Posted by markie97 on Monday, January 26, 2015 12:18 PM

I had a good effect with light gray paint then colored with dirt/mud/gray colored weathering powders. Adds nice variation like real concrete.

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