Just finished building the kit. The nosels seem too short to fit even 36' cars, did the real thing back then have a hose to connect, I know they use pipe now but since 1940 is close enough for my time period, I will do what was appropiate for then. By the way this kit was a pain to build with terrible instructions.
I believe the nozzles, which are fixed on the model, tilted and telescoped. This allowed adjustment to fit up with the dome in relation to the platform while avoiding the sag and aging issues a hose would have.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
They still use hoses.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1372160
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=820300
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=379261
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=828955
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=828957
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2232448
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1692894
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1323559
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=642395
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=642406
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rrebell By the way this kit was a pain to build with terrible instructions.
By the way this kit was a pain to build with terrible instructions.
Rich
Alton Junction
Ditto on the cementing difficulty. I use the Superglue gel often and used it here as it sets quickly. I then put it in place to discover I had placed my tracks in the loading spot too close together, had to move one, now barely wide enough. Measure twice...
EDIT: photo added below
Paul
Modeling HO with a transition era UP bent
I had no problem with the glue but the offset pipes had no mention of the diferences, got them right but I can see where others could easily get them wrong. The stairs were real fun with no alignment tabs and speaking of alignment tabs, the ones that are on top of the whole thing to hold the upright pipes with the cutoff valves were just wrong. Simple changes in the original design could have fixed all that, like deeper holes on the flanges.
ericsp They still use hoses. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1372160 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=820300 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=379261 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=828955 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=828957 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2232448 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1692894 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1323559 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=642395 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=642406
rrebellGreat pics, but way too modern, any from like 1940?????????????????
Yeah, I've been Googling for all the right terms -- I think -- and virtually nothing on loading racks of that vintage. I can understand during the war, given oil pipelines were a strategic asset. It may be because of the general sensitivity of such facilities even during time of peace.
I looked at a few of the links. The hoses that are hanging I think are used to provide positive pressure inside the tank to help it unload faster. They're on the small size for actually moving a tank car's worth of product through, I'd think, but I just don't know enough about the commodity being handled to say for sure.
Alos, I think the Walthers kit's arrangment is for filling tank cars, so that may account for other differences as well.
These were around before the war too. All I found was a closeup of a man doing the loading but not enough shows to tell the things I want. The model is now painted and weathered, just need to finish preping its home.
Yeah, they were. But it was the mass dislocations caused by U-boats, etc that brounght the RRs role to the fore, but people only really found out about the size of the efforts once the war and censorship ended. The RRs had only modest infrastructure to help them deal with the crush, but they managed.
As a kid, I remember seeing the loading racks at Norris City, Illinois on the east side of Route 1, so I was looking for a pic without having any luck. From living in Texas, I knew what they were and it seemed a bit odd for such a large facility to be sittting unused through the 60s in Illinois. I didn't learn what they were for until years later.
Eduction pipes are usually around 2" or 3" in diameter (http://www.bnsfhazmat.com/refdocs/1326686674.pdf, http://www.norfalco.com/EN/safetyandhandling/Pages/TankCarFittings.aspx). I don't think there is a reason for the hoses to be bigger.
Unfortunately, for photographs older than digital cameras, you would probably have to find industry publications from that era.