Alternatives to using spray bottle for applying scenic cement?

[Anonymous]

I'm too cheap tp go and buy a spray bottle, you got and suggestions? Maybe just a foam brush?

Jared[B)]

[Anonymous]

You don't always have to buy them. Many of the household cleaning products and etc. come in spray bottles. When you have used the product until empty, just wash it out and presto, free spray bottle.

[Wdlgln005]

Go to the dollar store, or look for the closeout king, Big Lots. You should be able to find bottles or sprayers for a dollar or less. With summer ending, try the garden section.

[Anonymous]

I think I can sport a dollar or two. Thanks for the tips

Jared

[cwclark]

I use windex bottles with soap and water to wet everything and large syringes with a piece of rubber tubing on the end to apply the glue...the rubber tubing helps to direct the glue exactly where i want it to go...Chuck [:D]

[rexhea]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cwclark

I use windex bottles with soap and water to wet everything and large syringes with a piece of rubber tubing on the end to apply the glue...the rubber tubing helps to direct the glue exactly where i want it to go...Chuck [:D]

[#ditto]

I have found that the Windex bottles produce the best even spray for the water/glue or Mod Podge mix. I haven't had much luck with the Woodland Scenics sprayer or other types (they had too many "sputters" [:(] )

REX [:)]

[dehusman]

While you're there buy a plastic ketchup or mustard squeeze bottle, the ones like in a greasy spoon with the pointed nozzle.

I never spray glue mixture. I always spray wet water (water with a dish soap as a wetting agent) and then dribble diluted glue on with a ketchup bottle. Much more control, much less mess.

Dave H.

[Anonymous]

What works for me is one of those misters like women use for hairspray... the kind that push directly down. I prefer 50/50 alcohol/water for a wetting agent. A simple plastic soda straw provides nice control for dribbling 50/50 Elmers glue/water for scenics if you hold the straw at a flat angle to the surface.

[dehusman]

what you want to do is put down the scenic material (ballast or ground foam) and mist a very fine spray of water over it to wet it (back off if it starts balling up) and then as the material becomes wetter, apply the water heavier. Then dribble a glue mixture over the material. Let it dry a few hours and repeat. My module has survivied driving down the interstate at 75 mph with no damage to ground foam or ballast.

Dave H.
PS: 75 is the speed limit on interstates in NE.

[petrosnz]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rexhea

QUOTE: Originally posted by cwclark

I use windex bottles with soap and water to wet everything and large syringes with a piece of rubber tubing on the end to apply the glue...the rubber tubing helps to direct the glue exactly where i want it to go...Chuck [:D]

[#ditto]

I have found that the Windex bottles produce the best even spray for the water/glue or Mod Podge mix. I haven't had much luck with the Woodland Scenics sprayer or other types (they had too many "sputters" [:(] )

REX [:)]

[petrosnz]

It depends what you're doing, but sometimes sputters matter. Then I use my Paasche airbrush at about 5psi. Gives great control.

Peter

[rexhea]

QUOTE: Originally posted by petrosnz

It depends what you're doing, but sometimes sputters matter. Then I use my Paasche airbrush at about 5psi. Gives great control.

Peter

Peter,
Would you mind explaining a little further. I have a new Paasche, but never though to use it for misting water or glue/water. Do you spray glue/water mix with it? What do you clean it up with?

REX

[petrosnz]

Peter,
Would you mind explaining a little further. I have a new Paasche, but never though to use it for misting water or glue/water. Do you spray glue/water mix with it? What do you clean it up with?
REX

I spray dilute matt medium, similar consistency to Woodland Scenics Scenic Cement. I clean up with water. There is a tendency for cement to build up in the air cap on longer sessions. I just keep a small stiff brush handy and use it wet to clean this out. Try it, it works fine. (If you're diluting your own matt medium put a little detergent in. Try 1:1 water/matt medium and adjust to taste.)

Peter
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[fwheadon]

Spraying either wetting agent or adhesive materials is a waste of good modelling time. There is far too much overspray for either and material is too easily disturbed. Rather than spray bottles use a pipette or large eyedropper. Fill the pipette with 90% isopropyl alsohol ( can be reduced with some water) and apply by holding the open end just above the area you want to wet and slowly flow the solution onto the ballsast or onto the scenery area. (Alcohol is superior even to "wet water" - 50-50 solution of dishwasher soap and water) as a wetting agent as long as the fumes do not get too concentrated. Do smaller areas at a time and there is no problem. Then use the same pipette to flow on the adhesive. Appy it slowly so it can flow into the wetted scenery material without disturbing anything. Woodlands Scenics "Scenic Cement" makes for a milky colouring at first but it dries clear. Matte Medium and Scenics Cement have a latex base so they flex as benchwork shrinks or swells with temperature and humidity changes.

[rexhea]

petrosnz,
Thanks for the info. I have some areas ready to try the air brush on.

fwheadon,
I agree that spraying from a bottle will disturb the material if your not careful. However, I don't think an eye dropper or pipette is the best way to go for large areas although ideal in tight areas or around existing scenery.

A waste of time is trying to cover a hill side or field using a pipette (unless Z gauge).

[CBQ_Guy]

I had the thought that if you can't afford a little, plastic spray bottle, you just might be in the wrong hobby. [%-)]

[Anonymous]

My wife saves hair spray bottles for me. Not the arosol type, but the pump type. Clean 'em out good with soap and water then mix up the stuff you want to spray on the layout in 'em and go for it. fwheadon is right, there is a lot of overspray, etc. but I have not found that to be a problem.

[Anonymous]

AND instead of paying the high "commercial prices" for our name brand scenic cements - - for foam and ground cover, go to Office Max or Depot or a similar office/printer supplier and buy a Qt. bottle of PADDING COMPOUND. It is the very flexible adhesive that is used to make memo pads and the like. Buy it clear, not red. Delute it way down . . so it sprays, try 50/50 and a dash of soap. Experiment with a small amt. It is nice because it is slightly plyable and colorless.

[Seamonster]

I use an old Windex bottle for covering large areas, but I find the spray a little coarse and it spreads over a wide area. For fine work, an old hairspray bottle seems to provide a finer more controlled spray. I use them only for wet water or alcohol/water mix, not for glue. I'd get glue all over everything with a spray bottle! For that I use an old carpenter's glue bottle. It's got a line drawn at the halfway point so I can mix the white glue and water in it 50:50. For more precise applications I use a 60 ml syringe and for even more precise applications, a 10 ml syringe (without the needles, of course!) and pour the diluted glue into them. I've found that the glue will stay in the syringes for a long time without becoming hard.