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New Member,New Layout
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 10:10 PM
Hi, I'm a new member and want to build the Granite Gorge and Northern layout in Atlas book. I also want to use DCC, but do not know a lot about this. Any tips or info would be a great help. Thanks, Larry
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 23, 2004 11:37 PM
Well, go down a couple of topics here and you'll see some discussions about DCC systems -- good info in there. I also found the Kalmbach book "DCC Made Easy" to be a great reference as to what's involved in setting up a DCC system (I'm getting back into the hobby after almost 8 years away from it, and decided to go DCC this time as well). The latest version of the Atlas layout books show how to wire the layouts for their DCC system, and that'll apply to any other system you choose.

As for the layout itself, Atlas now has a full line of Code 83 track, which looks more prototypical than the Code 100. The prices are pretty much the same for both, so go with the Code 83.

Other tips I can give from past and current experience:

1) Double-check all your wiring to be sure the connections are going to the proper rails from the common bus and the selectors.

2) Watch your rail joiners -- it's not hard to accidently have one side riding on top of the joiner rather than slid into it, which is a guaranteed derailer. As you make each connection between tracks, run your hand lightly over it to make sure the rails are flat and even both ways.

3) Watch for kinks, where the rails don't quite meet up properly -- also a trouble spot.

4) Double-check your gaps to make sure you've put them in the proper place and rail.

All of these can really be summed up in one phrase: "Take your time." Most of the problems I've had have been caused by trying to ru***hrough a task, and not paying close attention. Taking the time to do it right the first time means you'll spend more time later on having fun running your trains rather than troubleshooting problems.

And welcome to the World's Greatest Hobby! [#welcome]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:17 PM
If the layout you described is a 4 x 8 layout (not familar with GG&N) I would reconsider before you break ground. I got back into the hobby a few years back and started with a 4 x 8 and lost interest almost immediately. I would take some time, do some research on around the wall layouts, and then decide. The operating possibilities with around the wall seem to be far more interesting over the long haul.

I tore down my 4 x 8 over Christmas last year and replaced it with an around the wall layout. I find it much more appealing then watching the trains go around in a circle.

Just my two cents.
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Posted by CBQ_Guy on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:03 PM
Hi and welcome to the World's Greatest Hobby. You will get answers here, many conflicting to be sure, but ultimately all the info comes down what choices seem the best for YOU.

If you're just starting out, budget some hobby money to pick up several of the Kalmbach books on benchwork, scenery, wiring, etc. I know you already have a plan picked out, just realize this isn't written in stone nor has to be at this point, just don't rush despite the urge to dig right in. If you do and get burned or burned out, you will dump the hobby and may never come back. After all, it's supposed to be a relaxing, live long past time. And even though you have a track plan picked out, I would recommend picking up Tony Koester's new book on layout design because it mentions all the other considerations for designing a layout you should take into consideration, EXCEPT track. Very good info in there and has been a long time coming, IMO. This is also a Kalmbach book (no, I have zero affiliation with them!).

Finally, ask a lot of questions and also check out the helpful info on layout at the National Model Railroad Association (NMRA) Beginners Page at:

http://www.nmra.org/beginner/

For tons of model railroad/prototype railroad related discussion groups you might also want to check out:

yahoogroups.com

Good luck with your new hobby and above all remember to have FUN!
"Paul [Kossart] - The CB&Q Guy" [In Illinois] ~ Modeling the CB&Q and its fictional 'Illiniwek River-Subdivision-Branch Line' in the 1960's. ~
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Posted by snowey on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:18 PM
I can't really add anything to the advice you've gotten already; exept to say that I aggree on getting the KALMBACH "how-to" books. They're exellent! They're availible at your L.H.S. (Local Hobby Shop), online through a number of dealers, through the MODEL RAILROADER link on this site, or through the Kalmbach web site at www.kalmbach.com/books

Also, just keep in mind that you'll run into a lot of questions, some people will tell you the "right" & "wrong" way to do various things. Listen to them if you want; but remember there really isn't any "right" or "wrong" way!

One more thing; another great site is:www.atlasrr.com
It's currently down; but it'll be back up sometime this month.
"I have a message...Lt. Col....Henry Blakes plane...was shot down...over the Sea Of Japan...it spun in...there were no survivors".
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2005 1:03 PM
Ever heard of books?

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