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Faller to Bite the Big One?
Posted by Doc in CT on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 11:59 AM

 A new post on MR Express (link) reports that Faller has declared bankruptcy in Germany.  Hopefully they can come through this intact.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 12:11 PM

There's already a thread on this in the general section: http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/t/159434.aspx.  As I remember, several of the posters there thought that "sympathy" was a word in the dictionary between "shipe" and a type of STD.

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Posted by steinjr on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 4:54 PM

maxman
As I remember, several of the posters there thought that "sympathy" was a word in the dictionary between "shipe" and a type of STD.

  LOL. Both a new word I had never seen before and the use of a favorite RAH quote from TMIAHM as a template for your comment - not bad  Big Smile

 It is sometimes funny for me to see what weird fantasies (Edit: some elderly middle aged) conservative Americans (like Sheldon) has about "socialist Europe". Must be due to getting a few too many of their "facts" about the rest of the world from "balanced" people like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter or Bill O'Reilly.

 Too bad we don't actually have 12 weeks of vacation over here Big Smile

 BTW  - in the interest of being "fair and balanced", I guess I should add that there are some people in Europe with some pretty weird beliefs about life in the US, too.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 5:28 PM

Person I used to work with used the word "shipe" to replace another not-so-socially acceptable term, as in "when the shipe hits the fan".

You'll have to clue me in on RAH and TMIAHM.  Guess I'm too old to know what they mean.  You can send me a PM if they're socially naughty.

Oh, and the two things I miss about work are the 10 paid holidays and the 6 weeks vacation.  Not quite the 12 weeks off you get, but pretty close.

And as regards those three names you mentioned, the less said about them the better! 

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Posted by Geared Steam on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 6:39 PM

steinjr
 It is sometimes funny for me to see what weird fantasies elderly conservative Americans (like Sheldon) has about "socialist Europe". Must be due to getting a few too many of their "facts" about the rest of the world from "balanced" people like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter or Bill O'Reilly.

 

mmm, painting with a very wide brush aren't we Stein? 

The biggest fantasy is the socialist belief that everyone wants socialism and if you don't you must be brain washed by guess who?  Thank god we have several sources of news, if the fair and balanced network makes you squirm, good. They are doing the job, perhaps you should stop listening to your "fair and balanced" sources, you are confused about who is dishing out the truth.

Don't take this the wrong way, but many "elderly conservative Americans" aren't concerned about socialist Europe, except when "socialist Europe" tries to convince us it's a better way and that we should "change"

MInd your own business and stay out of ours, and keep your *** politics and beliefs off of a train forum.

Grinning

 

 

 

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Posted by steinjr on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 6:56 PM

maxman

 Person I used to work with used the word "shipe" to replace another not-so-socially acceptable term, as in "when the shipe hits the fan".

 LOL. I googled "shipe", and it seems like there is a urban slang word "shipe" too - which apparently means "sleeping with someone" in the literal sense of the words - ie actually sleeping in the same bed, without anything else happening.

 Just seemed funny in the context of your quip about "sympathy" being a word in the dictionary somewhere between "shipe" and what you referred to as "some type of STD" Smile

 

maxman

You'll have to clue me in on RAH and TMIAHM.  Guess I'm too old to know what they mean.  You can send me a PM if they're socially naughty.

 Not very naughty - there was an American science fiction author named Robert Anson Heinlein (often abbreviated RAH among Science Fiction readers). He was a decidedly conservative guy, who wrote quite a few science fiction books with a decidedly conservative bent.

 One of his books was "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" (TMIAHM), which was about a moon colony which declared independence from earth in a fashion fairly reminiscent of the US declaring independence from England during the American War of Independence.

 One of the quips he made in that book was "sovereignty is a word in the dictionary, somewhere between sober and sozzled" - which fit the exact same mold as your comment about sympathy (a word in the dictionary, between X and Y).

 I jumped to the conclusion that you perhaps had based your quip on that RAH comment, but either you just reinvented that pattern independently, or you both based it on something else or something.

 

maxman
 

Oh, and the two things I miss about work are the 10 paid holidays and the 6 weeks vacation.  Not quite the 12 weeks off you get, but pretty close.

 I also get a similar number of vacation days (26 days - five full weeks and one day), plus 10 or 11 paid bank holidays a year too.

 I.e. about 7 weeks off a year. Which is more than enough as far as I am concerned. You need time to do your job well too, and it can be a pain in the posterior to get things done in mid-summer, when most people have three or four weeks off from work - the country almost shuts down during the first three weeks of July.

 My 26 vacation days a year I tend to spend in the traditional way - I take out 20 work days to get four weeks off in the summertime, and then use the last 6 days to pad public holidays into whole weeks off.

  Or to take one day off once in a while to attend to various private business or whatever. Having to take a day off from work to wait for a repairman doing some kind of work on your house is always a favorite - thankfully I can do most of my work from wherever I can get online, and I work enough overtime to usually have a day or two of banked comp time I can take out for such things  ...

 For 2009 these days were public holidays over here in Norway:
 1: January 1st - New Years Day
 2: April 9th - Maundy Thursday (part of the spring break for the schools)
 3: April 10th - Long Friday (part of the spring break for the schools)
 4: April 13th - Easter Monday (part of the spring break for the schools)
 5: May 1st - Labor day
 6: May 17th - Constitution day
 7: May 21st - Ascencion day
 8: June 1st - Whit Monday
 9: December 25th - first day of Christmas
 10: December 26th - second day of Christmas

 In addition Christmas day (Dec 24th) and New Year's day (Dec 31st) are half work days.

 Quite a few people take three of their 26 vacation days off at Easter to get a whole week off at Easter, and then take 3 or 4 of their 26 vacation days off at Christmas, to get the whole week off between Christmas and New Years.

  Not all that extremely different from public holidays in the US, where federal employees had these public holidays off for 2009:

Not that different from the US, where Federal employees have the following public holidays for 2009:

Thursday, January 1      New Year’s Day
Monday, January 19     MKL day
Monday, February 16     Washington’s Birthday
Monday, May 25     Memorial Day
Friday, July 3     Independence Day
Monday, September 7     Labor Day
Monday, October 12     Columbus Day
Wednesday, November 11     Veterans Day
Thursday, November 26     Thanksgiving Day
Friday, December 25     Christmas Day

 The difference is that everybody over here get 25 or 26 vacation days - we don't have the situation that someone gets six weeks off and someone gets two weeks off, some get paid public holidays and some don't.

 Actually, come to think about it - teachers over here for practical purposes get more time off - since school is closed for about 8 weeks during the summer recess and there isn't much to do for teachers in the summertime - some days are spent planning the next school year, some days are spent attend summer classes for teachers, but summer is a fairly lazy time for most teachers. Then again, teachers aren't that well paid, so it all evens out, I guess.

 Again, not that extremely different from e.g. schools in Minnesota, where the last day of school for 2010 for schools in the Twin Cities suburb of Roseville will be June 11th and the first day of school in 2009 was September 8th - which translates to a school summer vacation of about 10 or 11 weeks - two or three weeks longer summer recess than we have over here in Norway.

 

maxman

And as regards those three names you mentioned, the less said about them the better!

 Amen.

 Oh well - sorry to be so off topic for the Model Railroader forums. Time to end this detour and get back on track, I guess Big Smile

 Grin,
 Stein

 

 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:19 PM

Geared Steam

steinjr
 It is sometimes funny for me to see what weird fantasies elderly conservative Americans (like Sheldon) has about "socialist Europe". Must be due to getting a few too many of their "facts" about the rest of the world from "balanced" people like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter or Bill O'Reilly.

 

mmm, painting with a very wide brush aren't we Stein? 

The biggest fantasy is the socialist belief that everyone wants socialism and if you don't you must be brain washed by guess who?  Thank god we have several sources of news, if the fair and balanced network makes you squirm, good. They are doing the job, perhaps you should stop listening to your "fair and balanced" sources, you are confused about who is dishing out the truth.

Don't take this the wrong way, but many "elderly conservative Americans" aren't concerned about socialist Europe, except when "socialist Europe" tries to convince us it's a better way and that we should "change"

MInd your own business and stay out of ours, and keep your *** politics and beliefs off of a train forum.

Grinning

 


 

 

What he said, and

I don't get any paid holidays, I'm self employed.

The universal misery of capitalism is the unequal distribution of the blessings,

The universal blessing of socialism is the equal distribution of the misery. - Winston Churchill

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:24 PM

steinjr
The difference is that everybody over here get 25 or 26 vacation days - we don't have the situation that someone gets six weeks off and someone gets two weeks off, some get paid public holidays and some don't.

And why should everyone have the same? Some have worked harder and deserve more, some have worked less and deserve less - What a strange concept that is.

Sheldon

    

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:46 PM

steinjr
elderly conservative Americans (like Sheldon)

Stein, exactly what age is elderly? making lots of assumptions aren't we? 52 is elderly? And you wonder why we don't want government run health care?

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Posted by steinjr on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:48 PM

 

Geared Steam

steinjr
 It is sometimes funny for me to see what weird fantasies elderly conservative Americans (like Sheldon) has about "socialist Europe". Must be due to getting a few too many of their "facts" about the rest of the world from "balanced" people like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter or Bill O'Reilly.

 

mmm, painting with a very wide brush aren't we Stein? 

 Am I ? Let's continue and see :-)

 

Geared Steam

The biggest fantasy is the socialist belief that everyone wants socialism and if you don't you must be brain washed by guess who? 

Thank god we have several sources of news, if the fair and balanced network makes you squirm, good.

They are doing the job, perhaps you should stop listening to your "fair and balanced" sources, you are confused about who is dishing out the truth.

Don't take this the wrong way, but many "elderly conservative Americans" aren't concerned about socialist Europe, except when "socialist Europe" tries to convince us it's a better way and that we should "change"

MInd your own business and stay out of ours, and keep your *** politics and beliefs off of a train forum.

 Actually, I have not expressed my actual political opinions here. I certainly has not championed socialism (ie government ownership of the means of production) or advised you to change your country's politics.

 What I have expressed the opinion that people who thinks that "Europe" (a continent containing some 40+ different countries with quite a few different cultures, languages, economic conditions and with governments of quite a few different political stripes) is all "socialist", and that everybody in Europe has 12 weeks of vacation, is just flat out wrong.

 About as wrong as I would be if I lumped the policies of say Hugo Chavez and George W Bush together under the rather sweeping label of "typical American politics".

 As for Limbaugh, Coulter and O'Reilly - I just happen to dislike simpleminded thuggish partisanship where yelling and name calling is substituted for thoughtful debate between reasonably intelligent people who acknowledge that it is quite possible to differ on issues and values without being personally abusive.

 The dislike of simpleminded thuggery, abject partisanship and silly name calling has nothing to do with what political convictions I hold.

 Politically I am quite probably way more conservative than you would expect from a European, but my political viewpoints doesn't belong here Big Smile

 Don't worry too much if you don't understand the idea that people can have more complex political views than "hutu good, tutsi evil" or "tutsi good, hutu evil", or if you cannot understand the difference between agreeing/disagreeing with your political views and not liking how and where some people choose to express their political views.

 Frankly, I find it pretty childish to see people like TZ in what I would consider an act of fairly immature adolescent defiance signalling his political beliefs by sticking comments like "charter member of the vast right wing conspiracy, recent inductee of the town hall terrorists" (or words to that effect) into his signature, or seeing Sheldon just having to express his beliefs about e.g. gun control (or whatever term you prefer for the whole second amendment furball) in a discussion about a model train maker going bankrupt.

 Not silly enough to waste people's time by complaining to the moderators, but still silly. Normally I would just have bit my tongue and moved on, but occationally my sarcastic wit (such as it is ...) gets the better of me, and I make some comment.

 Anyways - we are already far, far off topic, and it probably won't get any better by continuing on this path.

 Grin,
 Stein, out

 

 

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Posted by Geared Steam on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 11:08 PM

steinjr
What I have expressed the opinion that people who thinks that "Europe" (a continent containing some 40+ different countries with quite a few different cultures, languages, economic conditions and with governments of quite a few different political stripes) is all "socialist", and that everybody in Europe has 12 weeks of vacation, is just flat out wrong.

 

So your judging an entire population basing what you read here by 2 people here? That's is no different than saying "everyone in Europe gets 6 weeks off" is it not?

steinjr

 As for Limbaugh, Coulter and O'Reilly - I just happen to dislike simpleminded thuggish partisanship where yelling and name calling is substituted for thoughtful debate between reasonably intelligent people who acknowledge that it is quite possible to differ on issues and values without being personally abusive.

 The dislike of simpleminded thuggery, abject partisanship and silly name calling has nothing to do with what political convictions I hold.



Again, your being spoon fed, your only seeing one side, the left is just as guilty as anything you can blame of those people you mention. "Simpleminded thuggery" is a cute catch term you use to down play those views, if you can make them seem unintelligent and closed minded, the more it helps your argument, debate 101? "Abject partisanship" to you means anyone who disagrees with your views correct? "Silly name calling"?? I guess no over there engages in such behavior ( reference soccer?)

steinjr
Don't worry too much if you don't understand the idea that people can have more complex political views than "hutu good, tutsi evil" or "tutsi good, hutu evil", or if you cannot understand the difference between agreeing/disagreeing with your political views and not liking how and where some people choose to express their political views.


You see, insult me by assuming I don't understand "complex" political views above "hutu good, tutsi evil" or "tutsi good, hutu evil" is something you do safely from your keyboard. You do not know me and how you can come to that conclusion is again, the silly game of wanting to believe people of different beliefs are of less intelligence. Shame on you, it sounds like simple "simpleminded thuggery, abject partisanship and silly name calling" to me. Too bad you to have to lower yourself to the same tactics you claim to "dislike".

Believe it or not, my views (and most humans) are based on life experience, I have traveled to England, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, United Arab Emerites, S Korea, Japan and Canada, I have business colleagues in all of these countries but mainly in Denmark. In the last 20 years I have spent approximately 3 months in country. I always look forward to visiting these places for the experience, but I can tell you this,

- I have never seen or experienced anything in those places that would ever make me want to leave my country, period. My country is based on the harder you work, the greater the reward, I'm okay with that.

Other people are going to have a different beliefs Stein, please refrain from the hypocrisy.

Bigger Grin

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 12:04 AM

Strictly  Sign - Off Topic!!

 

I don´t want to put a torch to this already way too overheated discussion, but I am amazed, how little knowledge there is about today´s political and social life in Europe! Things have not changed since the early 1970´s, when I attended highschool in the US.

A mandatory health  insurance and a state-owned railway system does not mean a country is socialistic! And a tighter social net keeps people from following false "leaders".

Interesting, what an innocent little piece of news can create in terms of views and opinions.

With a big grin!

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:15 AM

Well, that was fun.  It has gotten way off topic, if kinda interesting in its own right Laugh, but the message is passed and we can hope to see the organization recover and continue to serve happy customers in our hobby.

-Crandell

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