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Posted by upjake on Monday, June 1, 2009 8:49 PM

This question is regarding N scale but could also be HO scale.  First of all, what is the best color or brand to use for painting track?  Second, can you paint the rails as long as the surface (where the train wheels pick up the current) of the rails remain paint-free? 

I never really considered doing this but layout photos in Model Railroader look so realistic when track has been painted.

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Posted by selector on Monday, June 1, 2009 8:53 PM

Medium brown is good, and one of the favourites reported here most often is "Railroad Tie Brown" by Poly Scale.  Some fellas just spray it all with Krylon medium brown.

Track is part of your modelling effort, and the more you put into it, the better it looks.

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Posted by dstarr on Monday, June 1, 2009 9:23 PM

 I brush painted all my rail.  Took a couple of evenings.  I used Floquil rust.  It does good things for the looks, including making code 100 look as small as bright and shiny Code 83.


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Posted by trainfan504 on Monday, June 1, 2009 10:00 PM

 I use Floquil paint Markers it works good and gives the track a nice look!

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:24 PM

By all means, paint your track.

For HO, I use a #4 fine shader brush and Model Master Acryl "Panzer Schokoladebraun", thinned about 50:50 so that it lets streaks of black show through on the ties and leaves gaps in the paint on the rail.  It's close enough to a rust color that you can get away with it on the rails themselves.

 Go over your railheads with a bright boy or similar cleaner afterwards to restore connectivity with your locos' wheels.

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Posted by markpierce on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:46 PM

upjake

This question is regarding N scale but could also be HO scale.  First of all, what is the best color or brand to use for painting track?

Since prototype rail varies in color, there is no single best color.  If you're modeling a contemporary railroad, I'd suggest you go look and see what colors they are.  Main track rail seems mostly blackish with brownish (or the opposite) tones to me, while less-frequented spurs tend more to rusty.  A lot of rust-colored model paints appear too red to me compared to the prototype.  Be your own judge. Regardless, don't paint all rail a uniform color.

I don't believe the brand makes any difference as long as you like the color.  You'd think one would need to clean the rail before painting, but I've neither done that nor regretted not doing so.

Best to remove paint before it sets wherever you want electrical contact.  My practice is to wipe it off with a paper towel every foot immediately after handpainting that portion of the rail. 

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 7:05 PM

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You'd think one would need to clean the rail before painting, but I've neither done that nor regretted not doing so.

I think this is a non-issue if you're fairly regular about cleaning your track.  On the other hand, plenty of ties have a little spur of wood sticking up here or there, so if you get some gunk in your paint, that doesn't detract from the realism.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:21 AM

It's been a few years since I last painted track. If I remember correctly I took about 3/4 of a jar of Floquil's rail brown--I had that much around from another project-- and to give the appearance of aging--and rusting--I added about 1/4 of a jar of Floquil's reefer orange and then diluted it down with a few drops of Floquil's reefer white.

To keep the paint from adhering to the top of my rail I treat it with a light coating of petroleum jelly. When my paint is dry I wipe it clean with a cloth and then Brite-Boy it with a vengeance.

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Posted by markpierce on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:27 AM

R. T. POTEET

To keep the paint from adhering to the top of my rail I treat it with a light coating of petroleum jelly. When my paint is dry I wipe it clean with a cloth and then Brite-Boy it with a vengeance.

That's much, much, too much work for me.  Just wipe it off while it is still wet. 

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:56 AM

markpierce

R. T. POTEET

To keep the paint from adhering to the top of my rail I treat it with a light coating of petroleum jelly. When my paint is dry I wipe it clean with a cloth and then Brite-Boy it with a vengeance.

That's much, much, too much work for me.  Just wipe it off while it is still wet. 

Mark

My layouts have not been exceptionally large so the amount of track to be cleaned after painting is not really that extensive. I suppose that if I had a couple of hundred feet of track I might do something differently like wiping the paint off while still wet. My petroleum jelly method is, admittedly, just a little labor intensive.

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Posted by analog kid on Thursday, July 2, 2009 2:27 PM

Heres a little recipe i learned from one of Dave Frary's scenery how-to books. First, prime the track with Polly Scale Roof Brown. Next, paint the sides of the rails a mix of equal parts Rust and Roof Brown. Tip: do this before you ballast, makes life a LOT easier. After that, heavily dry brush the tops of the rails a mix of two parts Earth to one part Reefer White. As a final touch, hit random ties with black India ink relief washes, and a few other with Floquil's Flo-Stain Oak and Driftwood. looks great even on Atlas code 100 flex track.

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Posted by Capt. Grimek on Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:14 PM
In case you're new to paints and brands in general, be aware that in a small train room with poor ventilation (mine has one entry door and no windows), solvent based (oil, enamal) like Floquil paints produce a very strong smell and unhealthy fumes. You really should wear a proper mask using them and a fan, etc. but of course most people don't. Polly Scale and some Model Masters are water based acrylic paints and produce almost no scent or fumes and allow you to wash off some mistakes if you act within a few minutes. Aside from my and my wife's issues with chemical sensitivities, I find "Rail Brown" by Floquil awfully green for a brown or rust color. My personal choice is "Model Master's" "Leather" color. A cross between chocolate brown and rust. NO smell. The water based paints take more coats (two on average) but you can stick your nose and eyes close to the work. Let some "bleed" over onto your spike detail and even a little ballast for that rust bleed look. Coat everything except the top of the rails/frogs/ turn out inner rail tops, etc. You don't need to paint the back side of the track if you can't see it, but IF you intend to ever hold your camera up high over the layout to photograph things from the back side, you'll need to paint the "other" side of the rails. Some people spray paint their track before installation but with flex track you'll get a lot of bright spots where the rail slides and bends and have to touch up/hand paint quite a bit anyway. Hope that helps. I'm painting right now! You'll be very glad you did. It makes a huge difference once you scenic your layout.

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Posted by selector on Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:56 PM

I agree with Cap'n Gee. Big Smile  Ballast, then paint.  If you have ever walked a length of rails that have been spiked in place for more than a few months, you will readily see how rust-stained the plates, ties, and ballast are near the rails.  This can only be duplicated, if accuracy is important, by placing the ballast first.

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Posted by markpierce on Thursday, July 2, 2009 7:16 PM

CTValleyRR

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You'd think one would need to clean the rail before painting, but I've neither done that nor regretted not doing so.

I think this is a non-issue if you're fairly regular about cleaning your track.  On the other hand, plenty of ties have a little spur of wood sticking up here or there, so if you get some gunk in your paint, that doesn't detract from the realism.

I was referring to the sides of the rails, where I want the paint to stick permanently.

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Posted by markpierce on Thursday, July 2, 2009 7:20 PM

analog kid

Heres a little recipe i learned from one of Dave Frary's scenery how-to books. First, prime the track with Polly Scale Roof Brown. Next, paint the sides of the rails a mix of equal parts Rust and Roof Brown. Tip: do this before you ballast, makes life a LOT easier. After that, heavily dry brush the tops of the rails a mix of two parts Earth to one part Reefer White.

I presume your locomotives run without obtaining electricity from the rails, or do your paints conduct electricity or is your railroad a static display?

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Posted by markpierce on Thursday, July 2, 2009 7:25 PM

selector

I agree with Cap'n Gee. Big Smile  Ballast, then paint.  If you have ever walked a length of rails that have been spiked in place for more than a few months, you will readily see how rust-stained the plates, ties, and ballast are near the rails.  This can only be duplicated, if accuracy is important, by placing the ballast first.

-Crandell

Painting after ballasting can lead to paint on the ballast, an effect I don't want.  If desired, a thin wash of paint would be better for coloring ballast.  Regardless, whether one paints before or after ballasting, the paint will get on the tie plates and spikes.

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Posted by Capt. Grimek on Thursday, July 2, 2009 7:47 PM
I should have been a bit clearer in my post above. I do paint my rails prior to ballasting (spike/plate details, etc. included) but I use a thinned wash over only a little of the ballast after ballasting to show some rust and soot/grease bleed through. I kind of combined those steps, above... I'm just starting my 2nd layout's painting and ballasting now that the main yard is finally wired up and running and awaiting circuit breakers and AR. This is probably my final layout so I want to do things as prototypically (visually) as my meager talents allow. I encourage the o.p. to take some photos of his local area (if he's modeling locally) and put them up next to his paint chips. It really helps to make your layout look like your area. If you're modeling an arrid area or something foreign, the pictures in your magazine/book travelling along to your hobby shop with you will help speed color selections vastly. You're gonna be spending a lot more time in the paint dept. than you think you will anyway! It's inevitable. Most of us are obsessive compulsive in this hobby, to some degree ;-) When you paint go slowly and try a small area (six inches?) and see what you've got. With acrylics, you can wipe most of it away with a damp cloth or paint it over. It's actually relaxing to sit on a stool and paint with a small brush, but the paint pen (solvent only, I think...) isn't that much faster once you get the hang of painting, dipping, painting.

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Posted by CSXDixieLine on Thursday, July 2, 2009 7:50 PM

I have a slightly different issue when it comes to painting my rails. I am using Micro Engineering code 55 flex track with weathered rail on my layout. The rail is already chemically blackened with a chemical solution that does not inhibit electrical conductivity--I can run trains on the weathered rail no problem without fiirst having to clean the rail tops. However, I am using Atlas code 55 track for my turnouts and the rail is not weathered, so I need a way to get the Atlas rail to match the ME rail. For this, I plan on using an electrical lubricant called Neo-Lube which will blacken the Atlas rails to match the ME rails. I have seen other modelers do this with excellent results. By the way, the reason I selected the weathered rail in the first place is because I am using concrete tie flex track and that would be a bear to paint without getting paint all over the ties. Jamie

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:07 PM

markpierce

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You'd think one would need to clean the rail before painting, but I've neither done that nor regretted not doing so.

I think this is a non-issue if you're fairly regular about cleaning your track.  On the other hand, plenty of ties have a little spur of wood sticking up here or there, so if you get some gunk in your paint, that doesn't detract from the realism.

I was referring to the sides of the rails, where I want the paint to stick permanently.

Actually, I was aware of that.  I apologize for being unclear in my answer.  I was probably rushing, for whatever reason.

I clean my track weekly or thereabouts with denatured alcohol on a shop towel.  I concentrate on the railhead, but I also wipe down between the rails.  I did not specifically clean the track just prior to painting.  However, occasionally I get a little tuft of dust that doesn't get picked up by the shop towels.  If you happened to pick up one of these on your brush, you could just push it down onto the ties.

 

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Posted by nbrodar on Thursday, July 2, 2009 10:57 PM

markpierce

analog kid

Heres a little recipe i learned from one of Dave Frary's scenery how-to books. First, prime the track with Polly Scale Roof Brown. Next, paint the sides of the rails a mix of equal parts Rust and Roof Brown. Tip: do this before you ballast, makes life a LOT easier. After that, heavily dry brush the tops of the rails a mix of two parts Earth to one part Reefer White.

I presume your locomotives run without obtaining electricity from the rails, or do your paints conduct electricity or is your railroad a static display?

Mark

 

I have the same book, he means the ties.  I paint the rails and ties before laying the ballast.

I use Polly Scale DRG&W Freight Car Red for my secondary tracks, and I've started applying a rust wash and grease streak to the ballast.

For my mains, I use Polly Scale Zinc Chromate Primer.  Eventually, I'll work the rust wash out to the mains as well.

Nick


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