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flex track end ties
Posted by lattasnip9 on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:33 PM

Are there any replacement ties (end ties) I can get for HO scale flextrack?  When laying flex track, you need to cut off some ties to slip the rail joiners onto the rail.  Is there any other way I can get around this problem without the akward missing tie appearance?

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:37 PM

 Save the ones you cut off. Snip off the 'clip' part that attaches to the rail and file them down slightly so they fit under the rails once the track is in place, and slip them under. Nothing extra needed to buy.

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Posted by bpickering on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:28 PM

I use real wood.

  1. I can't remember the dimensions off the top of my head, since I simply held various pieces of stripwood up to the ends of the ties.
  2. Cut to length with a Chopper, Duplicutter, or some other method of assuring constant length.
  3. Dye them with India ink in alcohol, or a dark stain. I've done both, the stain is closer to the plastic tie color, but the India ink can be closer to a weathered tie color (if you're going to be painting the ties anyway, why not do it in one step).
  4. Slide them under the joiners after the track has been laid.
Once everything is ballasted, the slight difference between plastic and wood ties is not noticeable.
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Posted by jbinkley60 on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:43 PM

rrinker

 Save the ones you cut off. Snip off the 'clip' part that attaches to the rail and file them down slightly so they fit under the rails once the track is in place, and slip them under. Nothing extra needed to buy.

                                  --Randy

I don't cut my ties off.  I simply slip an Exacto knife betwen the rail and the tie and cut off the tie plate plastic holding the rail to the ties.  I then slip the rail joiners on and they now slide between the tie and the rail.  You just need to be careful with this approach not to cut your thumb with the knife but I've done it 100s of times and so far no blood.

 

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Posted by simon1966 on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:06 PM

I do what Randy does.  I found a nice narrow flat file that lets me shave off just the right amount of the tie so that it will slip under the joiners.  Without that bit of filing I find I get a slight hump at the join.  I also try and leave the tie plate and spike detail on the tie on the side facing the aisle.  When I slide the tie in this butts up against the rail and looks just like all the other ties.

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Posted by chatanuga on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:34 PM

On my layout, I reuse the ties as mentioned above.  However, rather than just slipping them under the rails, I also drill holes in them even with the bottoms of the rails and spike them in place.  Not only does it keep them in place, but it adds more stability to the rail joints, especially on curves.

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Posted by Don Z on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:47 PM

I use real wood ties from Micro Engineering. They are pre-stained, and after painting the rails and ties, the wood ties give the appearance that a track crew had been replacing ties along the line. Here is the Walthers part # for them:

255-36101 Full-Profile Weathered Ties -- Regular Length pkg(1000) HO  14.50

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Posted by mobilman44 on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:14 PM

Hi!

Having used flextrack for a good 35 years or so, I've got quite a box of ties and oddball pieces from all the trimmings made over the years.  So after the track is laid and soldered and tested, I'll use an Xacto chisel blade and trim off the tie track connectors, and slide the tie under the rails.  It works and looks just fine, especially when you slop on some brown/black wash and add ballast.

ENJOY!

Mobilman44

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:20 PM

 I'm pretty sure that for any scale, you can just file down the ties you cut and slip them back into place, or maybe just slip them back into place, no filing needed.

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Posted by jrbernier on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:25 PM

Jeff,

  You are braver than I am with that Exacto knife!  I aways remove 1 or 2 ties from the end as I 'prep' the track.  I have an old file that I file off the spike heads and mill a slot so the tie slips under the rail joiner.  Without the slot, you can get an upward 'kink' in the rail joint.  With over 200 sections of flex on my layout, I have done over 500 ties so far!  I still have a container of ties all ready to go....

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:10 PM

simon1966

I do what Randy does.  I found a nice narrow flat file that lets me shave off just the right amount of the tie so that it will slip under the joiners.  Without that bit of filing I find I get a slight hump at the join.  I also try and leave the tie plate and spike detail on the tie on the side facing the aisle.  When I slide the tie in this butts up against the rail and looks just like all the other ties.

 Yup, I have a small file that happens to be the same width as a rail joiner, so i file a little depression in the middle of the tie plate area so the extra ties fit under the joiner without lifting the track. With the Woodland Scenics roadbed, the repalcement ties sort of 'snap' in place as you line up the depressions with the joiners, and while they are not tightly held in place, they're not going to fall out, either. After ballasting they'll be help in place just fine.

                                                    --Randy

 


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Posted by jbinkley60 on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:40 PM

jrbernier

Jeff,

  You are braver than I am with that Exacto knife!  I aways remove 1 or 2 ties from the end as I 'prep' the track.  I have an old file that I file off the spike heads and mill a slot so the tie slips under the rail joiner.  Without the slot, you can get an upward 'kink' in the rail joint.  With over 200 sections of flex on my layout, I have done over 500 ties so far!  I still have a container of ties all ready to go....

Jim

It took a little bit of practice but after my second or third piece of flex track I got pretty good at it.  They key is a sharp blade that will easily go through the plastic and not require a lot of force.  Overall it goes pretty quick now and once I glue the track down I am done.  No need to slide in removed ties. 

 

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:19 AM

I've used a single edged razor blade. Once you do it a few times, it's easy to remove the "spikes" and gouge a little out from under them so that it fits back together. It depends a little on which track you use too, Walthers joiners are pretty thin on the bottom so it's not as big an issue to make a depression for them to fit in compared to Atlas. BTW where I used plastic rail joiners I just cut up a couple of ties into a middle section and two ends and glued them in place. Once ballasted it's not obvious that the ties don't go all the way under the rails.

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Posted by toot toot on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:14 PM

I have been using code 83 and 70 flextrack for many years.  First i remove about every 4th tie.  Ties on flextrack are much too close together for the era i am modeling.  At the end of the section i use a couple of wood ties a bit thinner than standard ties to allow for the rail joiner.  Once the track is painted and ballasted the wood ties allow me to find the rail joiners.  Since i put feedwires and solder every other joint the wood ties help locate the ends of each length if/ when needed

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