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roadbed transition
Posted by chpthrls on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:16 PM
     My first post, boys, so bear with me. I am trying to transition from HO cork to N coming off a mainline onto a staging and yard area. I think N scale roadbed looks a little better in the yard area than HO. Anyway, the transition area is right at the end of a #6 TO, so I have to use a short piece of the HO roadbed before the N scale. I hope this can be understood from my somewhat convoluted description. Secondly, I'm running DC with block control. My question is, can locos be double headed? Thanks in advance for any advice. 
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Posted by BigG on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:52 PM

 What you are describing is an elevation change from thick HO cork to thinner N cork. There's no problem doing this if you consider it as being a very low hill that requires a vertical easement at both top and bottom to keep things from uncoupling or your coupler trip-pins from hitting track or ties. No big deal; just taper the height slowly, and test both long- and short cars, and mixed together.

 As for double-heading. I remember an article in a magazine some years back that talked about it in a DC environment. Basically, you can do it if your power supply can handle the current, and both locos run at the same speed. If mismatched, one will work harder than the other and overheating may result if the match is not close. Running long distances means the match needs to be better.

   George. 

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Posted by jrbernier on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:02 PM

  I do this all the time.  I run about 12-15" beyond the turnout using the HO roadbed.  I then start laying the N cork roadbed.  Get yourself a Stanley 'Surform' tool and just sand a nice gentle transition down to the N cork.  Then clean up the mess!  I takes about 5 minutes of work.  If you have something like a 'Mouse' detail sander, put some 60 grit sandpaper on it and it will take you about 30-45 seconds to produce the taper.  All of my sidings 'drop' down off of the mainline and there are no derailments with this method.

Jim

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:07 PM

Just as a matter of information, even though you may have enough power to double or even tripple head locomotives, you may not be able to successfully do this because of the type of engine you have.  Some locomotives, for example the typical entry level Athearn models, have one side of the motor grounded through the engine frame.  When coupled to another engine of the same type, it is possible to get a short circuit through the couplers.  This is not an insurmountable problem, because there are ways to isolate the frames.  One way to do this is to use non-metal shank couplers between the units.

If you have this problem, that would be the subject of another posting.  And it is a topic that has probably already been discussed.  I only mention this so that you can be aware of a possible issue and not be surprised.

 Regards!

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:50 PM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]to the forum chpthrls. 

For your roadbed transition, some #36 sandpaper wrapped around a block of wood will do the trick in about 30 seconds.

For doubleheading locos on DC, they should run at approximately the same speed throughout their speed range for the best results, but even grossly mis-matched units can be run together, although it won't be much fun. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]  It's nice, too, if both locos start at the same throttle setting.  I regularly doublehead both steam and diesels, and steam with diesels, too.  If you wish to run helpers, where one or more locos are on the front of the train and another one or more are pushing on the rear, then it becomes more important that all locos start at the same time and that their speeds are fairly closely matched.  Most good-quality locos of the same type and from the same manufacturer should run well enough together to be doubleheaded.

Wayne

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Posted by lvanhen on Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:10 AM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the forums!!  As an alternative to the N scale roadbed, you could transition to flat sanded plywood.  Yards usually dont have "roadbed", rather they are laid pretty flat with just slight depressions between tracks.  This can be done just by adjustments to your ballaast.  The transition from HO cork to flat can be done with a cedar shingle.  The cheaper undercourse shingles are 1/4" thick on one end and taper to almost nothing over 16" to 20" (depending on brand).  Although not usually recommended, the shingles come up to 12" wide, so they could be cut in a shape to go under a turnout.  My My 2 cents [2c]
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Posted by Medina1128 on Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:48 PM
When it comes to multiple lashups with Athearn locomotives, I use the plastic draft gear box that comes with Athearn couplers. You may need to use an offset shank to maintain correct coupler height. You DO have a Kadee height gauge, don't you?

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