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tools to apply scenic material to small area

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tools to apply scenic material to small area
Posted by Maurice on Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:32 AM
I am looking for ideas on what tools to use to apply scenic material, such as ground cover, turf and underbrush in small areas. For instance I need to work ballast in among the legs of the end of track bumpers. I also want to work ground cover, turf and some light underbrush close in to a wood loading platform. I am working in HO scale, BTW. I have several items from Woodland Scenics but they seem meant for using over a large area. I have a small shelf layout, so I am not working in a big area to begin with.
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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:46 AM

I use a disposeable paper cup, like those Dixie cups sold for kitchen and bathroom dispensers, to distribute the scenic material.  Just dump a small amount in a cup, squeeze the cup to form a pouring "spout", then tap the cup with your finger while holding it over the area to be sceniced.  This gives you pretty good control over how much material is distributed and where it goes.  I use a soft 1/2" or 3/4" brush to spread the material around, as needed, then apply "wet" water and diluted white glue as you would for any scenery project.  I use this method for any area, large or small, as I find the coverage with WS shakers too hard to control.

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Posted by Medina1128 on Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:20 AM

Below are some tools I use for small areas, especially areas next to buildings. I use the medicine dropper to soak the area with wet water or alcohol after everything is in place. Then use a small bottle to apply the diluted glue. I've since replace the mustard bottle with some of those squirt bottles that small diners use for condiments.

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Posted by ARTHILL on Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:24 AM

A set of makeup brushes from a garage sale for 50 cents.

A plastic spoon from Dairy Queen for free.

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Posted by Seamonster on Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:41 AM

I bought a set of spice bottles in a revolving rack and use them to store small amounts of scenery material.  They have perforated lids under their caps.  I can shake the material out into a small area.  I store the bulk of my scenery material in 1 kg peanut butter jars and use the cut off top of a pop bottle as a funnel to transfer it into the spice bottles.  Popsicle sticks are good for spreading stuff in a small area.  You can get a bag of them at a craft store or even a grocery store.  I use a 3/4" paintbrush as someone else mentioned to spread the scenery material.  I use an old glue bottle to apply the 50/50 glue/water mix and for tight places I've got some syringes (without needles, of course).

 

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Posted by jackn2mpu on Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:55 PM
I used to use the syringes Micro Mark sells but gave up on them. Hard to maintain an even flow after a little while. The rubber gasket on the plunger part tended to get gummed up with the glue/water mix. And when that happened and the plunger finally cane unstuck, there was a real deluge of adhesive where I didn't need it. Went to an ear syringe which seems to work out okay. Just have to remember to wash out the bulb when I'm done for the day.

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Posted by Seamonster on Friday, June 27, 2008 8:15 AM

 jackn2mpu wrote:
I used to use the syringes Micro Mark sells but gave up on them. Hard to maintain an even flow after a little while. The rubber gasket on the plunger part tended to get gummed up with the glue/water mix. And when that happened and the plunger finally cane unstuck, there was a real deluge of adhesive where I didn't need it. Went to an ear syringe which seems to work out okay. Just have to remember to wash out the bulb when I'm done for the day.

I've never had that problem with my syringes.  I even store the glue mix in them and the syringes are airtight enough that it doesn't harden.  Maybe the difference is that the ones I use are medical syringes.  If the plunger is stuck, try pulling the plunger backwards to get it unstuck.  That way the glue won't squirt out of the tip.

 

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Friday, June 27, 2008 3:16 PM

All advice given so far has been good. When I am applying scenery material to any area, I don't try and do it all at once. I start with the fine stuff first and get it glued down and dry. Then work toward the larger ground foam. I ballast after the fine GF is applied and set. Basically, it goes from the simulated dirt, then ballast, then green, from small to large.

Elmer.

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Posted by n1vets333 on Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:48 AM
I found that when modeling small areas I get best results using white glue to sketch and mark the area im laying then add the ground foam or whatever your doing that way if you over pour the area you could give it a quick blow and blow away the unwanted excess foam material. Then work your way away from the small area going to the large stuff. Then when using the sprayer to wet and water glue the area the air force of the spray bottle doesnt blow your work away.

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