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NCE PowerCab
Posted by KlickyMobster on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:21 PM

Hi guys,

I would like to hear some opinions on the NCE Powercab as compared to similar systems such as the prodigy express, etc.  Also, ease of use is a big thing.  Thanks for your help.

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Posted by mearrin69 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:45 PM

Hi,
Can't compare it for you because I don't have experience (other than in-store) with any other brands but the PowerCab/ProCab system is quite easy to use and seems to be a pretty good buy comparatively. I picked up a PowerCab two weekends ago and got up and running with two switchers and a half-circle of sectional track in just a few minutes - took me longer to strip the wires on the "terminal track" than to get it going.

I like it pretty well and think it will expand with me - I'm still blown away by being able to operate two locos on the same piece of track though, so I'm easy to please. I'm sure there's someone here with more experience with the thing.

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:34 PM

I bought a Power Cab back in January and I like it a lot. I did find out something interesting, reading the manual at least three times before trying it out was a big help. Some people like to try, question on a forum because of problems and then read the manual. Don't laugh. Since you are a member of the male species, you know exactly what I mean. It can be similar to programming a VCR. Smile [:)]

It is upgradeable also. The NCE site has good documentation that you can download. There is a NCE Yahoo Group with loads of good data in their Files and Photos sections that you can download. This forum is ok but the Yahoo group is more specialized.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NCE-DCC/

This guy has a lot of good DCC info. He also uses the NCE stuff.

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/nswmn/index.htm

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Posted by canazar on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:17 PM
I have a Power Cab and I am running a fairly large layout with it.  It is great unit and there is a lot of support for it as far as add-ons, upgrades and info.  I have been very happy with it and wouldnt change.

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Posted by Driline on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:20 PM
 KlickyMobster wrote:

Hi guys,

I would like to hear some opinions on the NCE Powercab as compared to similar systems such as the prodigy express, etc.  Also, ease of use is a big thing.  Thanks for your help.

Only COOL handsome people use the NCE powercab. Just look at tstage. You want to be part of the cool crowd don't you?

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:00 PM

Derrick,

I can't attest to being cool or handsome, but I can attest to the fact that the Power Cab is very intuitive and easy to use.  I've had mine for nearly 2 years now and like it very much.

If you'd be interested in reading an initial review of the Power Cab that I wrote when it first came out, click on the link below:

NCE Power Cab review

This will take you to my Review page on my web site where the link to the review is.  There's also links to reviews on the CAB-04p throttle and Smart Booster.

Hope that helps...

Tom

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Posted by nyc4me on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:10 PM
i'm not sure but i don't think you can read back cv values on the prodigy express. i've always read any cv i wanted on the power cab. had mine for about 8 months. like it very much.
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Posted by simon1966 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:17 PM
 tstage wrote:

 I've had mine for nearly 2 years now and like it very much.

 

Good grief Tom has it really been 2 years!  My oh my how time marches on.

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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:49 PM
 simon1966 wrote:
 tstage wrote:

 I've had mine for nearly 2 years now and like it very much.

 

Good grief Tom has it really been 2 years!  My oh my how time marches on.

As the frog says, "Time's fun when you're having flies!"

 

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:06 PM
 simon1966 wrote:
 tstage wrote:

 I've had mine for nearly 2 years now and like it very much.

Good grief Tom has it really been 2 years!  My oh my how time marches on.

Yepper, Simon.  End of February 2006...Believe it or not!  And next year your boys graduate from college. Shock [:O]

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Posted by simon1966 on Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:40 AM
Nope, I won't let them graduate, not even from high school until you have a computer interface and I have a duplex wireless system! 

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Posted by KlickyMobster on Friday, November 16, 2007 6:19 AM
Thank you very much everybody.  Tom, your review was excellent (and I'm sure you are cool and handsome too!).  I guess the only thing I'm worried about is price, as it will take a signifacant junk out of my budget.  I guess we shall see...
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Posted by tstage on Friday, November 16, 2007 8:51 AM

Derrick,

Although you might be able to find it slightly cheaper on eBay, $140 is what it's normally discounted at.

I know what you are saying about cost.  That's why I ended up going with the Bachmann E-Z Command first for a year.  Got mine for $53 (~50% MSRP).  It is a limited system though, as you will NOT be able to alter or adjust CVs with it.  However, it can still do quite a bit - including 8 sound functions.

I enjoyed the E-Z Command for the year that I had it then sold it to someone here on the forum, who's still using it.

Tom

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Posted by daboneman on Monday, November 26, 2007 2:56 PM

Hey all!!

What method do you typically use to mount the power supply?

A shelf? Or other?

Dan

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Posted by tstage on Monday, November 26, 2007 3:03 PM

Dan,

The power supply for powering the Power Cab comes in the form of a "wall wart" or wall transformer.  The transformer is already enclosed and plugs right into a wall outlet.  The other end is plugged into the back of the PCP panel, which the Power Cab is connected to from the front side, in the LEFT connector port.  Make sense?

Tom

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Posted by Driline on Monday, November 26, 2007 3:04 PM
 daboneman wrote:

Hey all!!

What method do you typically use to mount the power supply?

A shelf? Or other?

Dan

What power supply? The throttle cab IS the power supply. There is a wall wart you plug into an outlet and thats it!

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Posted by spidge on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:40 PM
 daboneman wrote:

Hey all!!

What method do you typically use to mount the power supply?

A shelf? Or other?

Dan

Hi Dan, wazzz up?

I plug the wall wart(power supply) into a power strip mounted on the inside edge of my layout. The power strip has a master switch so all layout functions are plugged into this.

You will love the powercab. I settled on it as it seemed the easiest to learn and master. Not that I have mastered it yet.

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Posted by jjbmish on Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:29 PM

I am also looking at changing from DC to DCC in the near future.  I have researched both the Digitrax and the NCE systems.  At this point I have decided to go with the ProCab system.  The expandibility of the system is one of the reasons I am looking to go to this system.  I know that both systems are expandible, but I like the hand held throttle that comes with the PowerCab system.  The base Digitrax system is more of a stationary transformer.  I operate alone 98% of the time so the limited throttles is not an issue.  My layout is also very long so I want the walkaround capability without buying an additional throttle.  Also, the local train club uses a NCE system, so I have a nearby source of help if it is required.  Also, if I join the train club I will be able to use my ProCab controller on the Clubs system.  Both systems are good, but for me the NCE system is the system I will be buying.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by KlickyMobster on Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:23 PM
Wow!  This thread is still going.  Thank you all for your help.  I think I will pick up an NCE whenever funds become available.
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Posted by jim22 on Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:02 PM

I have a PowerCab and I like it very much.  I also run my layout alone about 75% of the time, but I do think it would be handy to run a second throttle and also to be able to unplug the throttle and plug in on the opposite end of the layout.  The PowerCab by itself must remain plugged into a single powerpanel at all times.  It will, however, allow use of a second throttle which can be moved around.  Another option is a Smart Booster, which I think will allow you to use the PowerCab or a ProCab throttle and move it around.  Tom Stage should be able to help confirm that.  I am planning to purchase a second panel and a second throttle soon.  I'll probably by a ProCab throttle since the controls are identical.

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:14 PM
 jim22 wrote:
Another option is a Smart Booster, which I think will allow you to use the PowerCab or a ProCab throttle and move it around.  Tom Stage should be able to help confirm that.

 

Jim

Confirmed!  (Boy!  That was easy. Smile [:)])

Tom

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Posted by spidge on Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:51 PM
If you don't want to spend the extra dough on the smart booster then as mentioned before add more universal panels to the powercab and run an extra controller. The powercab will have to stay plugged into its home plug but the extra throttle will be able to move as desired. Another thought is to purchase and extra long six wire coil cord for the powercab as I did. I have a 15x17 L-shaped N-scale layout and am able to go anywhere with the 10 foot long coil cord and my powercab.

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Posted by jwils1 on Friday, November 30, 2007 2:32 PM

I received my new Power Cab from Litchfield Station yesterday, got it hooked up today and it's working great. 

After a lot of thought and study, I selected Power Cab to get started on my new N scale layout.  Also, lots of thanks to people like Tom, Spidge and others for many helpful and instructive comments.

I'm still running Lenz on my HO layout and am probably crazy to think I'll have time and ability to now run two scales and two DCC systems, but, I'm sure having fun trying!

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Posted by tstage on Friday, November 30, 2007 3:43 PM
 jwils1 wrote:

I received my new Power Cab...yesterday, got it hooked up today and it's working great.

Good to hear, Jerry! Approve [^]  Keep us posted on how you like it...

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Posted by KlickyMobster on Friday, November 30, 2007 5:23 PM
I was already planning on another throttle and at least one more hook up panel, actually.  How hard are they to  hook up though?  I'm assuming all I have to do is run a wire from the bus to the panel, right?
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Posted by marges diamond on Friday, November 30, 2007 5:35 PM
Just got my power cab yesterday...I fought off the urge to hook it up and try it.....instead I read the manual about three times and went to bed...hooked it up this morning and followed the step by step start-up, programmed an engine and off it went....and I am not a whiz at this new electronics....very happy with it...Bob
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Posted by tstage on Friday, November 30, 2007 5:54 PM

 KlickyMobster wrote:
I was already planning on another throttle and at least one more hook up panel, actually.  How hard are they to  hook up though?  I'm assuming all I have to do is run a wire from the bus to the panel, right?

Derrick,

All you need is an RJ-12 4-connector cable and a UTP panel.  The cable connects from the back of the PCP (or Power Cab) panel to either one of the RJ-12 ports on the back of the UTP panel.  (It doesn't matter which one.)  That's it.  You're good to go.

Derrick, if you're interested, I know where you can get custom length RJ-12 cable at a very good price.  The last time I ordered it, it was $2.25 for both connectors and $0.25 per foot.  (For example, a 4' cable would cost $3.25.)  Saves having a big loop of extra cable underneath your table.  

Tom

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Posted by NeO6874 on Friday, November 30, 2007 6:15 PM
or if you're in the electronics/telecoms business you could always make your own... it's a pretty simple task once you get the hang of it.  Though the crimper can be a bit pricey for a good one if you don't already have one.

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Posted by olequa on Friday, November 30, 2007 10:13 PM

I had a Zephyr for a couple of years. I sold it and bought a PowerCab. I like it way, way more than the Zephyr. It is, of course, hand held and the Zephyr is not. But for me it's all in the design of the unit. Whoever designed the Zephyr just didn't care much about usability. With the PowerCab you get a menu driven system so you never need to consult the manual but the menus don't get in your way either. You get an emergency stop button that doesn't kill the entire layout. You get two sets of throttle buttons and a thumbwheel, a quick way to change the momentum setting, lots more functions, and a lot of other features. I can highly recommend the PC.

 

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Posted by ianalsop on Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:55 AM

Had my PowerCab for 18 months now with no problems. Would recommend a second throttle, as the only minor irritation is that the "recall" button only allows you to scroll between the active loco and one other without having to re-enter an address. 

Occassionally I do want to have three locos running at the same time in my yard and not being able to scroll between all three is a nuisance.

That apart, it's very easy to use, programming is logical and simple and it works well with the NCE, Lenz, Digitrax and TCS decoders in my fleet.   

Ian 

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