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I would chech not just on the pulling power of these two engines but also their traction. My LGB DR Mallet will pull 5 litres of white wine up a 4 % gradient and this is something believe me. The two engineds you are considering should be able to do that and i would check this out if i were in your position. Mikados' seem to big too me and i really don't think they would look very natural on my layout. I have seen a green French LGB mikado and i thought it looked just great. Rgds Ian
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