I was reading the one on LGBs standard German Coach.
Very nice looking car but what scale????
I'm so glad that it was pointed out that it would be NICE if LGB would scale out their cars.
Someone someplace in the design process must have seen the prints or used a ruler to figure some measurements .
Please LGB give us some kind of idea in print? Why is it such a sercet?????
I love their modern cars.
PS , I thoughgt about a private car for my own RR logo and if it was NOT for the product review giving measurements I may not have even thought about this car.
Is it REAL? or Just 1:29 scale?
Long live Outdoor Model Railroading.
I'm thinking that it's likely semi-scale (meaning parts might be selectively compressed). Advertising the fact would not help in sales.
Another case of let the buyer beware.
Hi Marty
No really, for the past year I've been looking for a different , cool looking coach that can have my colors on it and look like the rich owner of a RR traveling around his right of ways.
Something that stands out.
Besides, I don't have any German looking items .
Product review after product review, "No Scale Designated".
Is it a problem to phone, E-Mail, check with the German Railways (or any other Railroad), or look up in books the Length of the Prototype Coach or Locomotive. Then measure the LGB or Piko Model and do the math.
Don U. TCA 73-5735
DMUinCT wrote:... Is it a problem to phone, E-Mail, check with the German Railways (or any other Railroad), or look up in books the Length of the Prototype Coach or Locomotive. Then measure the LGB or Piko Model and do the math.
Plus, if you do start mentioning scale, or even complain that it ISN'T to any particular scale (or one magazine "believes" the hype and calls it one scale without bothering to check anything, while another magazine does measure it and calls it what it is), you might as well give up on staying around once the lynch mob comes after you for daring to tell the truth.
Maybe the new owners will get it sorted, but I don't think so, so don't hold your breath.
They are and always have been a toy company, which is not a criticizm at all, it's just that if you know and accept that, the scale issue become moot.
Now, if Bachmann put out a propeller-driven vehicle in the 1:20 line, we'd have a real problem.
Or, if Aristo came out with something with the leftover ends of observation cars on a power brick.
But, ya know, Chicken Dance Cars are the wave of the future!
Actually, those aren't the 1:20 Bachmann hoppers, they're the much older 3-bay hoppers from their 1:22.5 line. When compared to the prototype for those hoppers, they're closer to 1:24 in height, 1:22 for width, and 1:20 for length.
Later,
K
I have always understood that LGB invented 22.5:1 and everything they did was this scale!
Rgds Ian
You can't really invent a scale.
They used marlin's #1 gauge track, and meter gauge trains, and that's what it is.
However, they are not, and I say again for possible penetration, NOT "sticklers for detail".
Find out what the "scale" is of their F-7's.
You'll come up with at least 3 different ones, none of which are 22.5.
You are probably right Curmy but i have read many times that the Richter brothers invented 22.5 - 1 back in the sixties and i can only go by what i read. I also have no doubts LGB bend the rules to suit themselves, i guess they all do.
I really don't care that much about scale as long as it looks reasonable.
I've thought this over and I've concluded that LGB does exactly like some toy train (3-rail) companies.
They purposely build their equipment so that it can take minimum curves. MOST operators would rather have stuff that can go around their curves and aren't as concerned with scale (or perhaps they might be if the ads stated it is a toy and not scale).
unlike the many "scale" adherents on this forum, your average garden railroader sets up a loop of track on the living room floor or on the grass in the yard, and runs the trains as fast as they will go.
LGB knows this and their business model is sound. That it isn't to scale and isn't labeled as such isn't really a company concern.
Some toy train companies like Lionel and MTH do this all the time.
FJ and G wrote:........................................... LGB knows this and their business model is sound. That it isn't to scale and isn't labeled as such isn't really a company concern.Some toy train companies like Lionel and MTH do this all the time.
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Hello,
If a company's debts for the previous year are almost as high as the total turnover for that year - more or less 20 million Euro - because the turnover decreased by approx. 33% then the business model may not be all that sound. Of course it is a matter of interpretation, but sound business models very seldom end up in insolvency court.
Best regards
ER
The head is gray, hands don't work , back is weak, legs give out, eyes are gone, money go's and my wife still love's Me.
I am not sure where you have been hiding out for 50 years, but COMPLAIN about Lionel, AF and MARX was all the "scalies" ever DID.
nmra looked down their noses at them until someone pointed out if they formed a "sig" for it, they could get more dues!
Why do you think MARX is gone?Why do you think Lionel now does scale stuff?
This is the SAME argument, 50 years later.
Some wag in the late 40's, I think, said Lionel was 1:52, as that was the average of the errors in scale.
The scale crowd went off towards 2-rail "0", Half Zero, craftsman "S", anything but the rubber gauge.
Why do you think folks buy other than LGB?
Curmudgeon wrote: Why do you think folks buy other than LGB?
Its less expensive, much much less expensive
Have fun with your trains
MAN,,,Is this scale issue still going on????? Whos the door knob that started this thread any way/????
Bottom line, buy what you want and make it work for your needs.
If I can't figure out the scale it will hinder me buying it sight unseen. See shopping on line more we need more info. A photo won't cut it. Some times I will pay more and travel to a show or hobby shop to see it first hand and if it will work.
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