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I have been to Cleveland and i thought it was the worst pace i have ever visited, however it was there that i reached the conclusion that the worse a place is the nicer the people. However some years later i decided that was not true; i visited Hirakleon which is the capital of Crete. It was a really rotten place and the people were just awful, had minor troubles from the moment i arrived untill i left. I decided then that their is not much differencve between Cretans and cretins. I truly think that is where the word came from. After visiting many places Cleveland is barely on my lsit of the worst ten cities i have visited. Rgds ian
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