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Buying an Aristo Snow Plow in parts??

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Buying an Aristo Snow Plow in parts??
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 1:20 PM

I was thinking of an AristoCraft Snow Plow for this fall and winter operations.

A/C sells one for $92 bucks!! http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=5798 

Kinda steep for a gondola and a wedge??

So I was thnking of buying the gondola car for $24 dollars http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=20017325

Then buy the snow plow wedge $10 bucks http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=20010093   and attach it to the gondola car for a total of $35 bucks, a lot better than $92........Has anyone else done this??

 

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Posted by Don H on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 3:50 PM

Dan,

 I think the AC plow comes with metal wheels.

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 5:59 PM

I used an old Bachmann gondola (free), and made the wedge from black PVC pipe.

It's even adjustable, and removeable, should I ever need more than 15 gondolas.....

 

Total outlay:

 

zero.

 

Plus, we use it to plow the railroad.

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Posted by Tom The Brat on Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:27 AM

Wow. Even the discounters want $92 for them.

There's one simple rule in G gauge: If you don't want to buy it, make it!

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Posted by Train 284 on Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:10 PM
Agreed Torby! I did not they sold the wedge seperately. I am going to attach to it a gonadola. I did not want to spend almost $100 either because we hardly ever get any snow and it would not be worth. I will put that on my project list!!
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:37 PM
If anybody wants, I can take a couple of photos and post......
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Posted by Puckdropper on Friday, August 11, 2006 3:39 AM
Hey Curmudgeon,

That half-finished wheel-less frame and wedge of a plow I've got in my garage is your fault!  Without your inspiration and pictures, I'd have never begun that project...  There's just one thing I've got to say:

Thanks!

(I have hit a bit of an impasse with it, I need wheels to put under it and haven't got a source yet.  The LHS hasn't gotten back to me about finding wheels and trucks.)
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Posted by CandCRR on Friday, August 11, 2006 11:02 AM

I had ordered just the plow from my local dealer but he went out of business before it ever came.  I like the idea of using PVC pipe for the plow.  I was going to try to kit bash it on to a cabose.  I saw one on one of the other forums that looked really nice.  Maybe now I'll have a plow by the time snow flies around here.

Thank you,

Jaime

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Friday, August 11, 2006 11:07 AM
What kind of wheels and what kind of trucks?
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Posted by BillBrakeman on Friday, August 11, 2006 1:12 PM

Curmudgen,   I would be interested in seeing pictures of your homemade plow.

Bill

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Posted by Marty Cozad on Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:32 AM
AC usually sales the wedge with Ball bearing wheels because of the weight needed to keep the plow on the track.

Is it REAL? or Just 1:29 scale?

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:23 PM

I'll try to get some photos today.

 

Marty:

Guess how many pieces of rolling stock I have with ball-bearing wheelsets in them?

 

(Hint: well over 100 actual pieces, all 15 years of heavy use, some 20+)

 

I load my plow up with rock.

One of the locals used lead ingots.

The only "trick" is to tie the Bachmann sideframes togeter with a paperclip under the sideframe screws.

 

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Posted by pimanjc on Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:42 PM

I bought the separate snow plow from Aristo.  It came without the leading-edge blade.  Aristo has told me for the last six months, that the leading edge is out-of-stock. Disapprove [V] !!!!!!!! 

I am hoping to mount it to it's own single truck, with weight [batterys] and light, so it can hook to whatever loco I choose with a kadee coupler.

JimC.

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:43 PM

Got three.

The PVC is cut at what ever angle you want.

We used 45 degrees.

There is a 1/8" or so brass rod, threaded, fits through the back lower corner of the blade, and through the end beam of the car.

Remove the nut and washer, slide it out, remove the adjustment rod, and return car to revenue service.

The blade tip can be adjusted up and down by turning the double nutz on the adjuster rod inside the end wall of the gondola. The blade pivots around the horizontal rod through the end beam. 

This shows the adjustment rod and spring.  Those are real rocks, load to suit.

It is an old clevis from an r/c aircraft servo link. Someone had it in their junk box.

On this you can see the old paperclip. I later soldered the ends. Keeps the truck from spreading (ball bearings would make NO difference to truck spread with weight).

I only use plastic wheels in show and ice.

Some folks think letting their metal wheels set to outside temp works, maybe where they are, but NOT here and NOT at the North Pole.

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Posted by pimanjc on Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:55 PM

Thanks for posting the pics and narrative, Dave.  There are lots of good ideas there to borrow.

JimC.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:10 PM

Thank for posting the information on the snow plow, now to get a piece of pipe and try and make one , did you use pvc glue to glue it together.

          Thanks    Ben

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:38 PM

Yeah, I had the glue, so I used it.

Hasn't failed in use in 15 years, so I guess it's gonna hold up.

You can choose the size pipe, too.

Some guys used a chunk of 4"....

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Posted by Marty Cozad on Sunday, August 13, 2006 5:11 PM
I said the Ball bearing wheels because it does affect the price.
I broke my part off then glued it back rather than buying one.
heres my plow built onto a 40ft gon


I just use 1/4 of a window weight in the front and body mounted couplers for sure.
AND there is approtoype to this in CB Iowa, just different road name.

Is it REAL? or Just 1:29 scale?

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Posted by Puckdropper on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:54 AM
 Curmudgeon wrote:
What kind of wheels and what kind of trucks?


It's up in the air right now...  I've got enough room to put just about anything under there.  Any recommendations?   
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Posted by Curmudgeon on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:19 PM

Whatever is cheap.

You actually going to use this in snow removal?

 

Metal springs in the sideframes rust, and you get them all impacted with snow, well, I wouldn't.

German trucks are expensive, metal trucks ditto, the best bet for me for MOW service would be Bachmann with a clip tied across the sideframes as shown to keep the trucks from "spreading".

I should probably ask if you are doing Narrow Gauge or Standard Gauge?

 

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Posted by Puckdropper on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:46 AM
It occurs to me I'm hijacking this thread...  Please visit the new one I am about to create.
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Posted by dwbeckett on Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:44 AM
I have not looked yet, but a new forum post was added that will allow subscribers to download past published pullout plans. I know GR has published one for snow plow in the past. I think it was in two parts.

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Posted by piercedan on Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:10 PM
The Aristo plow comes with metal ball bearing wheels and these are wired to a lamp on top of the wedge.

I know that the street price is high, but I was able to get my Maintenance of way version for much less when it was the club offering.

I add a brick for weight and in heavy snow I use 2 sd-45's to push my plow.

It is awesome to watch in action at night with the light.



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Posted by FJ and G on Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:17 PM
Curmudgeon,

Really cool scratch.

Some Qs:

1. What adhesive to join? Standard purple primer and PVC glue?

2. How did you get the bottom to flair?

3. How did you determine the closeness of the plow to the rails?

4. For snow, do you spray some WD-40 or Pam or something on the plow to make the snow slide off?

Thanks. I may copy your idea. Nice.

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Friday, August 18, 2006 12:03 AM

Whatever the standard PVC glue I had on the shelf!

I set the car on the track, figure where the blade will fit, grnd the bottom on a bench grinder until it lays the way I want it to, lift the back up to clear the rail by, oh, less than 1/8", drill the pivot holes, insert brass rod.

Then attach the clevis mount and rod, so I can adjust the tip up away from the rails.

 

Never have sprayed anything on it.

It just curls off nicely.

The notches in the bottom corners are done to clear the Tenmille Ground Throws.

 

A little trial run in both directions, mark and grind.

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Posted by FJ and G on Friday, August 18, 2006 10:28 AM
Thanks, TOC, just seems there's a bit of flair at the bottom. You've inspired me to give it a try.
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Posted by CandCRR on Friday, August 18, 2006 11:55 AM

I too am inspired to try making a PVC pipe snowplow. Thumbs Up [tup]  I was hoping to make the type that looks like it was made from a caboose or boxcar, see photos below.

   B&M snow plow in Nashua NH.

I have seen photos of this style plow that others have kit bashed that look good.  I also like the idea of being able to have a "wing" to push snow even farther back (the dark square/rectangle just behind the plow - there is one on each side so it could clear 3 tracks at onceWow!! [wow]).  I also figure you could hide a lot of weight inside this plow.

Thank you,
Jaime

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