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Progress on several 1:29 structures.
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 27, 2006 9:28 PM
Hey All!

Thought I'd share a picture of some structures I'm building for my new rr. I can't work on the ROW due to the weather, so I thought I'd keep myself busy with these instead. Each is constructed from 3/8" cypress resawn and planed from 4/4 stock. I milled the board and batten siding for the two painted buildings as well as the plank style used for the larger structure on the left. It will have a loading dock trackside as it is a small warehouse (of some sort).

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The doors and windows are plastic from Colorado Model Structures. They average about fifty to seventy cents each roughly, which is a pretty good deal. I wi***hey were the inset variety, but making the window sashes, etc.. goes pretty quick after you've done four or five. [:p] The doors come 1:24 scale, so I cut them down to 1:29. This is a pretty easy task and more of an annoyance than anything else. Maybe someday we'll be able to buy them that way over the counter.

I still have the roofs to complete and windows to cut and install. I'll post a few pictures when I'm done.

Thanks for peekin'. [;)]
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Posted by John Busby on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:54 AM
Hi Bob
By the look of the small buildings the other building must be the main store for the
Frenda Frenda Mine[swg]
Very nice job whats the plan for the roofs
regards John
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:31 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by John Busby

Hi Bob
By the look of the small buildings the other building must be the main store for the
Frenda Frenda Mine[swg]
Very nice job whats the plan for the roofs
regards John


John,

The plan for the roofs is to use an underlayment of ¼” to 5/16” cypress. I’ve got some styrene overlay material that has a corrugated roof detail molded in. I’ll probably use it on the warehouse and possibly one of the other two if there is enough left over. I’m also going to try using some wet/dry sandpaper to simulate tar paper and I might pick up some wood shingles at Michaels or somewhere and give that a try too.

I’ve never roofed one of these critters and am open to any suggestions, thoughts, etc.. you or anyone may want to share. Thanks for the kind words, Frenda Mine!
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Posted by John Busby on Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:30 AM
Hi Bob
For the tar paper a suitably fine grade of Wet and Dry paper should work very well In Aus we have a product called bond crete which is a clear PVA like substance that will seal the wood concrete ect.
I think it would be worth painting the sub roofs with that before applying the finishing roof sheeting after its dry in all cases.
You could probably also use it as the glue to hold down the tarpaper texture sheets and possably the shingles as well.
The styrene sheet might be better glued with silicon sealer after the sub roof has been sealed. but will definatly need two or three coats of good quality exterior grade paint. (Assuming out door use).
The name Frenda Frenda mine came literaly because a friend of a friend of mine sugested a gold mine should be on my garden railway since I live in the Goldfields.
As yet not done I have not got a drawing for a wooden head frame yet or the Mecanno wheels for the cages which if it ever gets done I want to have it so every now and then it looks like the cages are going up and down the shaft.
Big dream I know especialy since I am still building the track work.
regards John

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Posted by FJ and G on Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:02 AM
Nice work; don't hear too much about using cypruss wood but I guess it's as good as cedar or redwood for holding up to the elements
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by FJ and G

Nice work; don't hear too much about using cypruss wood but I guess it's as good as cedar or redwood for holding up to the elements


David,

Thank you for the kind words. I'm anxious to get thagt warehouse done just so I can try out that roofing material.

FWIW, cypress is a good choice around here for decks, etc. that are to be painted. It won’t last as long as pressure treated Southern yellow pine, but doesn’t have the instability issues either. Mahogany is another wood that weathers very well, but it’s use outdoors is generally cost prohibitive. Cypress down here is pretty cheap, almost as cheap as pine. It’s easy to machine and is fairly straight grained and stable. It should be available in VA, I would think.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 31, 2006 9:19 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by John Busby

Hi Bob
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The styrene sheet might be better glued with silicon sealer after the sub roof has been sealed. but will definatly need two or three coats of good quality exterior grade paint. (Assuming out door use).

regards John


John,

Thank you for your thoughts. I’m planning on using ‘OmniStick’ which is an all purpose adhesive: http://www.appliedimaginationinc.com/omnistick/index.html I've never used the stuff before, but my understanding is that it forms a flexible yet strong and water proof bond between wood and ‘most plastics’. I might give it a shot this weekend and will post the results.
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Posted by toenailridgesl on Sunday, April 2, 2006 4:57 AM
Should I move the 1:29 sandhouse construction project here? Given the huge lack of response & enthusiasm in the 'disappearing forums' post, maybe here it'll get more attention. Like I said, 1:29th modellers, put up or shut up!
Phil Creer, The Toenail Ridge Shortline,  Adelaide Sth Oz http://www.trainweb.org/toenailridge toparo ergo sum
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Posted by John Busby on Sunday, April 2, 2006 7:35 AM
Hi Phil
I would only be a watcher on this one.
And it's not me you want to hear from on this one.
Should hear today or tomorrow what 16mm bits will be in the post
hopefully some of the bits for the workers coach.
beginers Loco Kit arrived for me lst week so will be seeing what I can do with that which is why I would only be a watcher.
regards John
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Posted by toenailridgesl on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:01 PM
OK, given the massive response from the 1:29 so-called modellers, I guess it's shut-up!
Just remember, gents, the next time you want to gripe about what is or isn't available, the offer was made.
Phil Creer, The Toenail Ridge Shortline,  Adelaide Sth Oz http://www.trainweb.org/toenailridge toparo ergo sum
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:56 AM
A little further along here... still need to add the chimneys, roof vents and a couple other odds n' ends. The roof material is from Precision Products and is my first experience with it. Thanks for lookin' in. [:)]







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Posted by John Busby on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:39 PM
Hi Bob
They are coming along nicely.
Forgot to ask do you have drawings for the two small structures.
Those two on there own are just about a one horse town where even the horse is dead or just plain left town[:D]
Hope your good with the stencils for the store name.
regards John
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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:48 PM
Well done! I especially like the little false-front store.

You said the windows and doors were really cheap. They look much better than I would have expected at that price. What kind of material are they?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 8:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ray Dunakin

Well done! I especially like the little false-front store.

You said the windows and doors were really cheap. They look much better than I would have expected at that price. What kind of material are they?


Ray,

Thanks for the compliments. The doors and windows are injection molded styrene. Check this link and scroll to the bottom for a picture of the doors and windows as they come. http://www.coloradomodel.com/bldgg.htm You can see they are quite simple why they are priced accordingly.

For the wood structures I’ve made, I rout the back side of the window opening to about 1/8” thick. The door or window is inserted from behind and glued in. From the front side, I frame the window with strip wood and notch the sill to fit. Not as tedious as it sounds as I gang cut all the parts on my table saw. I rabbet each edge of a ¼” block that is as wide as the sill I need. Then I cross cut it to 1/6” thick and can make a bunch of sills in short order. Since I only have 4 window sizes to worry about, it’s simple to make a boat load of parts at one time, for current and future structures.

What amazes me is how quick a simple structure can consume doors and windows. The false front store ate 4 windows and two doors. If I had purchased them from Grandt Line, I’d have spent $15+ probably. From CMS, I was only out $3.50. As I’m sure you are aware, Grand Line’s products offer superior detail. Most insert from the front, complete with frames, sills, etc., so they save a bunch of time.

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