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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith Part of Lionels half baked and looking at it today, idiotic attempt to stay in largescale by offering cheap low quality battery opt'ed New Bright type sets as legitimate "Large Scale" trains. These sets were produced by Echo and Scientific toys of China and sold under the Lionel logo, they bombed with serious modelers and had a great deal to do with the "Plastic in the Petunias" label being applied to Large Scale. Many who bought them , got frustrated with the poor operating options (on/off, back, forward) and gave up with a bad taste for large scale. Lionel's failed attempts at LS are legendary, thier single best offering was the Geep they had early on, it was a very good engine, The 4-4-2 Atlantic looked great, but unless you completely reworked the motor is operating days were numbered. Perhaps the most successfull offering was and still is the unique little 0-6-0 which love it or hate it has managed to stick around longer than anything else Lionel had to offer. I persoanlly feel that Lionel seeing a new market that could jeopardize its own O gauge offerings, deliberatly offered these cheesy battery opted sets to try to "poison the well" of large scale with the hope that thier customers interested in large scale would "see the light" and return to O, thus protecting its O gauge offerings and existing investment/tooling/patents, etc. This is of course after dumping its finer scale line of Geeps and Atlantic's. [/quote] i agree batterys are for flash lights. [2c]
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