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Hello Joe & John, the space for my layout is approximately 27 x 10 yards with a difference of height of appr. 13 ft. it should be possible to get this difference at a maximum grade from 3-4 degrees of angle as I have a length of appr. 109 yards according the raw plan below. [img]http://home.arcor.de/sulka-de/GRR/P4260001.jpg[/img] at least 2 of the loops need a trestle maybe one in combination witg a tunnel. the big challenge is the real landscape, not laying track and then adding mountains ;-) I feel I am not going to build a model-layout but a real railroad. that's what it makes easy to leave most of the H0-stuff. Now I have to deal with things I've never dealed with before like trestle-bridges. As I think of building much on my own this will be no quicky but, just like in reality, a real hard procedure for the nest years. "not the goal is important but the way of reaching it" Next time I will take the gathered LGB-Track outside to give me a better idea of how to go on. Used to plan in H0 on paper or on computer, in a real wilderness I can forget. also next time I will see what geared steamer occassion will let me find and also some rolling stock. recently I saw a publicitiy: "live is outside" - that's it! with all this euphoria HRC Hatchetstone Railroad Co. has already its webpage ;-)))) http://www.sulka.de/sites/moba/HRC/index.html best regards from lower franconia klaus
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