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Thanks for answering. This piece of garden is really a rough one ;-)) The place to be seen on the photos is approximately the half of the possible station yard (appr. 30 ft x 4 1/2 ft). It's the smoother part ;-) Even if I'd wi***o go around in a circle, it wouldn't be possible. I prefer the prototype manner to go back'n forth. So in any way I will prefer a wireless radio control or digital system to walk with the trains. Here I found a radiocontrolled-digitalsystem called train control (http://www.train-control.de/) which works without a central unit and can control locos as well as switcges and signals. it is independant from the manner of powersupply. sounds interesting. in europe exist also the revalda track. same size as LGB but made of stainless steel. I read it would be better to keep clean. I suppose I will use track power. should be possible to make several sections and it's not a big deal to lay a cable below the tracks. Back to operating: I imagine a kind of logging railway, maybe with a little public passenger traffic. The lower station could be located on the riverside (the little wineyard-wall could be the bank where the logs go down the water. This could be the switchpoint to the exterior world for this autarc little RR co. I even found a picture of a shay being transported on loggins to its opperating field. quite like the prototype it seems to be a severe act to get to the point of starting construction. I have enough work to get the area prepared for laying testtracks. Although I guess I have to make the severe discission to skip H0-railroading. As I have also to spent a lot of time on working, I guess my RR-time will be to short to run two systems. And as I find the interessting point in running a "real railroad" with the challange of a real terrain, the changing seasons and real goods to transport, I fear the outdoor-RR-company might cost all my sparetime ;-) I will report and pose questions along the devlopement of the "Hatchetstone RR" (at least a name is still existing ;-))) thank you klaus
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