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Thanks for the replies vsmith and mark! I am going to change the layout a bit and use a crossing, probably 30 degrees. The up and over was just a thought and if everything is on the same level it won't hurt the scenery one bit either. In fact the scenery may be the challenge that I am looking for! We have just set up a new 'puter here and there are some neat things on it. Maybe I'll get the chance to send out a few photos as progress is made on the layout. Thanks again guys! <br /> <br />marshal
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