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xxl
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Live steam new guy
Posted by xxl on Monday, August 30, 2021 4:28 PM

I want to get my frist live steamer.  My frist question is i have lionel o guage track do they make steamer that can run on this size?      Next question is  so many  manufactures which to chose?    I saw the ruby and dora  from on place.     Then i saw the ones from round house.     i also found  mss loco.   I dont think i forgot any of them any ideas  on my issues

 

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Posted by PVT Kanaka on Tuesday, August 31, 2021 1:10 AM
Sorry, XXL. Live steam is an aspiration, only! Mike has some posts and thoughts on the subject, but he is running 45mm guage. - Eric
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Posted by Greg Elmassian on Tuesday, August 31, 2021 10:41 AM

They have made live steam in many gauges/scales.

Anything under 45mm gauge is pretty tough and can be much more finicky to run, and more expensive due to fewer models.

By far, the most available is in 1:32 scale and 45mm gauge. Next is probably something like 1:20.3 narrow gauge on 45mm track.

A good place to ask questions is on mylargescale.com and on largescalecentral.com, they have active live steam forums.

 

Greg

Visit my site: http://www.elmassian.com - lots of tips on locos, rolling stock and more.

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Posted by emdmike on Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:07 AM

There is live steam in O gauge that will run on tubular track,  But only in UK looking models from Bassett Lowke, made from the 1920's up thru the mid 1960s.  They offered 3 primary models, 2 of which will go around tighter track work, down to 031 in some cases.  The Enterprise 4-4-0 and Super Enterprise 4-6-0 will handle tighter radius track.   The more scale looking Stainer and Gresley Mogul 2-6-0 needs wider radius.  The vintage ones will run on tubular track and I was able to get mine around 042 but just barely.  The reissue Moguls done by Corgi/Bassett Lowke have more fine scale flanges and need 072 or larger proper profile O gauge rail such as Atlas O or Gargraves.   All of these are externaly fired "pot" boilers.  Fired using alcohol with either a wick style burner or the more common vaporizing burner.  So the paint work on the boiler tends to get burn off on the older models.  I have seen a few of the models that came stateside revamped to look more USA with cowcatchers/pilots instead of buffers, a different tender instead of the 3 axle UK style ect.   Ebay is the best source, both USA and UK ebay.  If it doesn't list USA as a shipping location, always ask nicely.  Many will ship to the USA if asked.  I have both a Corgi reissue Mogul that I converted to butane gas firing(you cannot do this with the original older models) and a well run Super Enterprise 4-6-0.    Mike

my LNER Super Enterprise dating from the early 1930s.  Still runs very well. 

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Posted by emdmike on Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:14 AM

And here is a video of my Corgi/Basset Lowke Ex LMS BR Mogul with gas firing conversion done by me using Bix brand parts.  Note to everybody.  Do not attempt this with an original Mogul or Enterprise/Super Enterprise.  Those have a rolled brass boiler with a soft soldered seam along the bottom right in the burner flame.  This is OK with an alcohol fire.  But not with a much hotter butane gas burner.  The Corgi reissue has a tubular brass boiler so a gas burner on a LOW setting does just fine.  But one can still overfire and do quick damage if not careful.  I am experienced with both gas and alcohol fired models in G scale, so no worries in O scale.   With the alcohol fired engines, one keeps a damp hand towel in a bucket, if a model decides to go full pyro from an alcohol vapor fire in the cab, you just drape the wet towel over the model and it puts everything out instantly.  Saving the model, its paint job and if running indoors, possbily your layout/house.  And to think these were sold to children to run back in the early part of the last century!   Mike

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Posted by PVT Kanaka on Monday, October 11, 2021 1:47 AM
Mike, awesome stuff! Great history lesson, too, along with the tech tips! -Eric

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