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Hibluebonnet-71 <br />I take it you mean the pipe one. <br />I used 50mm pvc waste pipe for the pipe run so at the moment have plenty of room for more wiring I just use pvc coated steel washing line as a pull wire to pull in new wiring <br />For "long" (a bit subjective) runs i just use a little dish washing liquid to ease the passage of the wire there is a proper lubricant you can buy for this kind of thing, but as I haven't just about filled the pipes or got realy long runs can get away without it. but you must protect the top of the pipe and pit where the wire is being pulled in as the wire can cut in to it <br />regards John
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