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Well men have i learned something; the Aussie way is to surreptiteously hammer a few copper nails into them in the middle of the night, then deny all knowledge of it. As well suggest that your mother in law had intentions of doing something about them damn trees, killing two birds with the one rumour. However we have been successful thanks a lot any way. We dug all around them as suggested, then got a crow (pry) bar under it, resting on a brick and levered bit by bit all round and then using a long piece of stout wood, again resting it on a few bricks we levered it up. Wasn't it Pythaorus who said give me alever long enough and somewhere to rest it and I will move the Earth Then this is where the innovation comes in, we help it up on one side and pushed a trolley (luggage trolley type thing) heaved and heaved and there we were tree on trolley next to the hole. We had five to do, three we did at the rate of one per day and the other two we have left in place for effect. We have even replanted the trees we moved, as they are worth quite abit of money and everything grows like crazy here in the tropics even in winter. Hole filling was no problem. I think I have mentioned previously about how well it drains arouns here well when we got to the bottom of the holes we found out why we came across the oddest sand it was light gray in colour our sand is usually golden. By the way we have had a record cold winter here, we got down to 10 deg C the other night; lowest for several years and you people think you have real cold all to yourselves. Rgs Ian
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