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Hi slick1 After an E- talk with the Workshop Manager of theToenail Rridge Short line it looks like a 4wh ore car is the way too go have aquired suitable axle boxes and Buffer type couplings which are suitable for my line and brass shapes for strapping ect Am waiting for drawing and a few tips to turn up in the post so I can then chase down the wood right sized pop studs for break wheels. Have turned up a thing called a "T" pin, which with a small bit of brass tube and a BA washer would make ideal "T" shaped door handles for passanger coaches when I feel up to having a go at one of those. Thinking of an improved version of Tony Birds box coaches for that got all bar the first artical on those, but ore cars first so I can find out how to build a propper chassis as that is the improvement. regards John
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