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[quote user="EMPIRE II LINE"][quote user="vsmith"][quote user="looe_caboose_cafe"] I would like to know how many of you guys have Buddy L Trains.  I have been running one in my restaurant for 2 years, and other than occasionally oiling the moving parts it has been trouble free.  The weight of the metal boiler enables it to pull as many cars as I want it to pull.  My opinion is Buddy L Trains are better than Bachmann, (and I have many trains from both manufactures) and the cars look as if they are made in the same factory as Bachmann, And the Track is nearly the same except the connectors are on the opposite sides.  Both Sets have small trim items that can be broken off by children, but so does LGB and Aristo-Craft.  My Buddy L has ALL WHEELS picking up power from the track, with brass bushings for long wear life.  Lets compare the sound tenders of both Manufacturers,  Bachmann's Chugging gets a little monotonous, where as the Buddy has Steam Sounds on start up, Chugging, and random Whistle and Bells.  I would highly recommend Buddy L Trains.  They are now being manufactured under the "Keystone" name. Walt[/quote]Put it on any kind of a grade and just see what happens. My wife has a Keystone circus set, the engine can barely pull one bobber caboose up my grades, where my single dismal F-40PH will pull every car in the set plus some around the layout. The older Buddy L version I had hit a spot on the track that lifted the drivers up just barely, but that was enough for them to just sit there and spin. The engine is just plain weak out of the box. Its OK for absolutely dead level track, but on any kind of realistic layout with grades and just forget it.[/quote]Time for the BUTCHER !!!!!Byron C.[/quote][IMG]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/casino_trains/Trains/800px-Butchers_shop_Hong_kong.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/casino_trains/Trains/pirates.gif[/IMG]
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