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[quote user="vsmith"][quote user="Mr_Ash"][quote user="altterrain"] You should stick to the ten wheelers and LGB locos with the 4 and 5 foot diameter curves and switches. The C-16 says it can run on 5 foot curves but really likes them bigger. [IMG]http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/C16coaldragsm.jpg[/IMG]  -Brian [/quote]I dont see any reason why i couldnt just stick with the 10 wheelers I mean I have 1 now and 1 more on the way (ordered that Durango & Silverton passenger set UPS should be dropping it off later today [:-^] ) plus there are 2 more that im wanting plus plus an undecorated one [dinner]I mean I like the looks of the Aristo C16 over the Bmann 4-6-0 wood burner but I probly would have gotten them both anyway so ill just forget about the C16 as I have been iffy about it since I started debating between the two engines. Im sure that I can dress up the bachmann to my liking [:D]since the lgb track is going outside looks like the craptastical bachmann track will get some use in my living room soon [:P]Oh... What about the Bachmann 2-8-0 Consolidation? Could it handle R2 curves? Also how does the size compare to the 4-6-0's? [/quote]I think Brian ment to put an IF on the beginning of that sentence.[;)]I also agree get the widest curves you can accomodate, the current Big Hauler is too me actually  a better engine than the now out of production C-16, AC is reissueing it with a new "improved" drivetrain sometime next year, how much improved remains to be seen.Bachmann Connie WILL run on 5 foot diameters but by all accounts it HATES doing so. groans and squeeks it way thru them, the old C-16 will run on R1's.Best advice I can give is use the widest curves and turnouts you can afford.  LGB R3 or AC 6.5' diameter will accomodate just about everything short of the very large engines. Now if you absolutely MUST have Bachmann's soon to be released K-36 then you had better plan on nothing less than 8' diameter.Now that said, remember this:   YOUR TURNOUTS MUST MATCH YOUR ENGINES MINIMUM DIAMETER REQUIRMENTSExample: If your running a Bachmann Connie, with a minium operating diameter of 5' diameter, your turnouts MUST match that MINIMUM diameter or your engine WILL DERAIL!IOWs you cannout run an Aristo DASH-9 which is 6.5' restricted thru an R1 turnout.I say this for 2 reasons, 1, because turnouts are EXPENSIVE, you need to accept that if you want to run the bigger engines you will have to pay then piper in terms of layout design and associated costs, and 2, its a common beginner mistake, its sounds logical but you'd be surprised how many make that mistake and then post they cant understand why their engine keeps derailing on every turnout, and it turns out thier running 6.5' diameter curves with 12000 series 4' dia turnouts...why, becuase they didnt want to pay for the wide diameter turnouts. Not surprising given that the wide turnouts can be around $90+ bucks a pop![/quote]I must say Vic beat me to the punch. D-9 engine today eats 8' curves and if you look most are getting bigger like the 8' curves and other.Also check the swing of the cars when they go around a curve. I don't have a picture of that but some one might.Toad [2c]
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