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Kitbash ideas
Posted by SNOWSHOE on Monday, April 28, 2008 11:39 AM

I want to convert this LGB engine into something but not sure what.  I am new to kitbashing.  I want to get an older look to it.  (Old logging RR look).  What are some of the things I can do to it.  I want to add a tender to it. preferably one scratch built. (I having trouble finding anything to fit the size and is not expensive)

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, April 28, 2008 1:05 PM

You can a LGB Toytrain tender, its a perfect match for this engine, but at around $50-60+ they aint exactly cheap:

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=5659

HLW mini-car gondola is also a prime tender candidate, just cut off the boards on one end, add a water tank and instant backwoods tender, and at $10 a pop, they are way affordable.

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=20018735

As for kitbashes!

Darling, lets talk ...

and a few others that could be inspirations:

 

 

Sometimes I think I should change my signiture pic to something more accurate, like...

Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by altterrain on Monday, April 28, 2008 2:50 PM

I had some serious ideas posted elsewhere but how about this monster-

 

 

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Posted by SNOWSHOE on Monday, April 28, 2008 3:50 PM
I really like the wood look.  As for tender the LGB is a little pricy but I never thought about taking an ore car or something similiar.  Keep the ideas coming
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Posted by hoofe116 on Monday, April 28, 2008 8:41 PM

Vic,

I snitched a copy of the pic of the wood-cab one. Awesome. I don't see a water tank, does it need a tender? If not, where's the water carried?

How'd you come up with that complicated-looking bunch of johnson rods running off the back wheel? What's my chance of getting a full-on side shot? I'm a shameless copycat.

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Posted by hoofe116 on Monday, April 28, 2008 8:48 PM

Brian,

I also snitched a copy of your 'monster'. I like nothing better than ugly--well, ungainly-looking--RR rolling stock. It appears to have a huge blower? I assume it's crank-axle or gear drive, which would be your guess? (The connecting rod appears to be on center with the axles. Now why would that be?) I'm assuming it's English. Is that a good assumption?

Thanks for posting it.

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Posted by hoofe116 on Monday, April 28, 2008 8:55 PM

Vic, #2:

Duh, if one clicks on the pix, lo, it gets LARGER. My, my. Should I assume that's a different version of an LGB? Or a different chassis althogether? In either case, that's a fascinating set of con rods and whatnot.

BTW, there's a spate of new LGB 20xx1, the last number not on the older styles, being offered on EB. If they're a new model, do you know anything about them?

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, April 28, 2008 9:06 PM
I'm not sure which one you mean, if you mean the silver cab one, its a unmodified Stainz drive, just built a new cab on it. In a real Stainz the water tank was built in between the frame at the wheels.

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Posted by altterrain on Monday, April 28, 2008 10:45 PM
 hoofe116 wrote:

Brian,

I also snitched a copy of your 'monster'. I like nothing better than ugly--well, ungainly-looking--RR rolling stock. It appears to have a huge blower? I assume it's crank-axle or gear drive, which would be your guess? (The connecting rod appears to be on center with the axles. Now why would that be?) I'm assuming it's English. Is that a good assumption?

Thanks for posting it.

Les

Hi Les,

I found it here - http://www.mdrs.org.uk/picturebonus.htm

To me it looks like the top mounted cylinders are turning a shaft with a small gear on the end. That gear turns a large gear in the housing then turning the gears on one of the axles. I do not think that is a connecting rod but I have two ideas on what it may be. Either just a cover for bearings and also keeping the axles properly aligned or it may be a cover for a chain drive to transfer power to the second axle (though it may not be large enough for that purpose and only one axle is powered).

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Posted by hoofe116 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:43 PM

 vsmith wrote:
I'm not sure which one you mean, if you mean the silver cab one, its a unmodified Stainz drive, just built a new cab on it. In a real Stainz the water tank was built in between the frame at the wheels.

I'm sorry. I was so fixed on the weathered wood-cab one (can't make out the name) I forgot to be specific. That one.

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Posted by hoofe116 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:49 PM
 altterrain wrote:
 hoofe116 wrote:

Brian,

I also snitched a copy of your 'monster'. I like nothing better than ugly--well, ungainly-looking--RR rolling stock. It appears to have a huge blower? I assume it's crank-axle or gear drive, which would be your guess? (The connecting rod appears to be on center with the axles. Now why would that be?) I'm assuming it's English. Is that a good assumption?

Thanks for posting it.

Les

Hi Les,

I found it here - http://www.mdrs.org.uk/picturebonus.htm

To me it looks like the top mounted cylinders are turning a shaft with a small gear on the end. That gear turns a large gear in the housing then turning the gears on one of the axles. I do not think that is a connecting rod but I have two ideas on what it may be. Either just a cover for bearings and also keeping the axles properly aligned or it may be a cover for a chain drive to transfer power to the second axle (though it may not be large enough for that purpose and only one axle is powered).

-Brian 

Hmm. Okay, so that's what those growths are on top: cylinders. So, turning a shaft would make sense. But note the 'vanes' in the hub of the large shroud. A large gear driving both wheels directly might explain the heavy connecting bar between the axles that I took as a connecting rod. Boy, I bet that sucker'd be 'stiff' on all but a very wide radius curve.

It's cool, whatever it is. Thanks for posting it and the site.

Les

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Posted by John Busby on Friday, July 11, 2008 8:58 AM

Hi Hoofe 116

A big clue as to what is going on is the builder Aveling & Porter.

Sirapite owes more to traction engines than railway locomotives behind the big shroud will be a gear train and a b####y great big fly wheel.

The bar between the wheels looks like it might be big enough to hold a chain drive.

Given the usual frame structue on a UK locomotive it should not need a stiffener but with this one owing a lot to road locomotives so who knows whats holding it together.

I think but not having a better picture only think the bits on top of the cylinder are one of two things iether drain cocks or safety valves.

regards John Busby

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