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carving the barrels?!
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 1, 2008 4:47 PM

You know the barrels you get that have no lines that go up and down, like wine, nail keg.....

How would you go about carving these in there?

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Posted by Capt Bob Johnson on Friday, February 1, 2008 6:09 PM
If they don't have a section resembling a metal band, how bout a light touch with a coping saw?   otherwise I guess it woud be a suitable knife from a carving set, a steady hand, and maybe a ruler & pencil to keep the lines straight?   Just score it with a razor knife?
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Posted by ttrigg on Friday, February 1, 2008 7:20 PM
How about those little "V" shaped miniature lathe carving chisels.  In most stores I've looked ar, they are just a few pegs down from the "X-Acto" knives.  the blade looks to be a brass/bronze composition about 3/8 inch wide, 3 inch long, in a 5 inch wood handle.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 1, 2008 9:03 PM

Cool ideas, will try them!!!

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Posted by altterrain on Saturday, February 2, 2008 12:11 AM

I have a skinny little diamond wheel (545) for my dremel that does some pretty fine lines.

 

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Posted by two tone on Saturday, February 2, 2008 4:36 AM
Hi Toad I rember the last time you tried DIY put some gloves on this time the good lady does not want to be patching you up againSmile [:)]

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Posted by GearDrivenSteam on Saturday, February 2, 2008 5:23 AM
However you scribe them, remember not to make them too perfect. You might wanna add a knott or two.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 2, 2008 1:37 PM

 two tone wrote:
Hi Toad I rember the last time you tried DIY put some gloves on this time the good lady does not want to be patching you up againSmile [:)]

Ok, ok, Two Tone, Trigg, Dwbeckett is on me for da hooch, so I will not drink any hard Dr. Pepper before I do this! Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 2, 2008 1:55 PM

 GearDrivenSteam wrote:
However you scribe them, remember not to make them too perfect. You might wanna add a knott or two.

There ain't no knott holes in good ones, what are you thinking???? Coopers would not make one with knotts in them, but I could be wrong Tongue [:P]

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Posted by hoofe116 on Saturday, February 2, 2008 7:24 PM

Toad, You been reading my mind.

If I were to undertake that little job (and one day I will) here's what I'd do:

Get an old, smallish file that's comfortable to hold, or put a handle ('duck' tape works) that feels good. Sharpen that rascal on the grinder and scratch it on a scrap of wood until you get the size and look of line you want. It'll prob'ly end up looking like a 'V', but not hollowed out. It could be a hook-nose form would work better. Dunno.

Do you have a steady hand? Yes? Then skip the rest 'n have at 'er. Howsumever, if you're like me, cut a wood block just the least tad longer than your barrel, and wide enough so it's tall enough to give you a good steadyrest. Put barrel (with protecting tape on ends) in vise with block/steadyrest alongside it, and clamp it and the steadyrest down. Lean your tool down and make a light scratch. Remember that the barrel changes diameter as you go along towards the middle, so you need to compensate a tad with the tool. Staves of a barrel is wider in the middle than at the ends. If you're extra particular, you can sandpaper out a radius in your guideblock to account for the problem.

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Posted by TJ Lee on Monday, February 4, 2008 3:32 PM

Toad,

This is plain barrel from Michael's with lines scribed using a heavy Xacto blade. Heavy glove on the holding hand as some force was required to cut the lines.

Then painting and you wind up with something like this:

Hope this helps.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 4, 2008 10:02 PM
 TJ-Lee wrote:

Toad,

This is plain barrel from Michael's with lines scribed using a heavy Xacto blade. Heavy glove on the holding hand as some force was required to cut the lines.

Then painting and you wind up with something like this:

Hope this helps.

TJ

TJ, let me see that knife, what # is it?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 4, 2008 10:09 PM
 TJ-Lee wrote:

I do have another question for you. What is that orange RR vechile to the left of the barrel in the background????

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Posted by dwbeckett on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 8:13 AM
 TJ-Lee wrote:

Toad,

 Heavy glove on the holding hand as some force was required to cut the lines.

Toad maybe you should ware two glove's on each hand.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:39 AM

Hey my drilled finger healed up well! I do my own sewing too!

But gettn two chain mail gloves for fishing are looking good about now!

About 1 week after my other finger healed I killed the nexted finger with a dremel gouge (sp) bit!

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Posted by CPT Stryker on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 7:59 PM

A few posts back, I saw where someone is buying their barrels from Michael's. If you are buying them from craft stores, you are overpaying for them. I posted the following in the "Scratchbuilding & Kitbashing" forum. It contains a link to the manufacturer of the barrels who sells them at $15.00 for 100 barrels.... here is the post....

The other night, I bought some wood barrels from one of the big-chain craft stores at 99 cents for a bag of 2. Tonight I looked on the package and low and behold, the manufacturer has a website where you can get them even cheaper. For $15.00 I bought a bag of 100 wooden barrels for the Beerhall, beer garden and Krausbrau Brauerei in my G-scale alpine German village of Krausbach (named after my late godparents Karl & Christine Kraus who were from Nurnberg, Germany). If you are building a structure that is in need of barrels, oil drums or milk cans check them out at  http://www.craftparts.com/mall/page37.asp  I hope I am not in violation of any forum rules by posting the link as my intention is to help anyone else who may be looking for these items. The barrels are 1 5/8 inches tall by 1 1/8 inches wide. They also have a selection of other wood parts which may be of some help for a scratch-building project. 

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Posted by dwbeckett on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:26 PM

Rene, This is a good one to add to the list

 http://www.craftparts.com/mall/page37.asp

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Posted by TJ Lee on Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:52 PM

Toad,

> TJ, let me see that knife, what # is it?

No. 1 knife with No. 11 blade. Be carefull. But I've done a dozen barrels so far and still have all my fingers <g>.

> I do have another question for you. What is that orange RR vechile to the left of the barrel in the background????

Picked up this old and used LGB diesel set for $50 bucks (US). No idea what I'll do with it so far. The orange item in the barrel pic (man, you have better eyesight than me!) is, I think, the work caboose from the set pictured (based on the candy strip in the pic).

Best,

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Posted by two tone on Friday, February 22, 2008 10:28 AM
Hi Toad, Just checkin to see you are ok, hope every thing is a little better for you all,  Take it easy. Let things come and go there is no rush.   

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 22, 2008 1:53 PM

Two, I am ok, just have not felt like doing anthing RR lately.

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Posted by two tone on Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:50 AM
Frog take it one day at a time it will get easyer as time goes by.    two tone

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:49 AM
Yeah, Feb. just keeps going very long.....one long month!!
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Posted by two tone on Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:17 AM
Hang ion in there March is on the horizen new month new outlook. Look forward we can not do any thing about the pastSmile [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:28 AM

Off the subject but how bad is the Gas in the UK? $3.00 here now in my town.

I had ole chap of mine who lived there and at one point it was $2.00 (if I remember right) and pack of smokes was $5.00, this was while back.

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Posted by two tone on Monday, February 25, 2008 11:34 AM
Hi Toad when you say gas I take it you mean for a car  its $8+ over here mostly tax for our goverment

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:04 AM

awh...it did go up again. dang sad! taxed to death!

Toad

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