The 312 project

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:09 AM

The replacement cylinders I bought have a straight mounting tongue

 

 

 

 and will allow me to use the original pilot

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:12 AM

 Which has a lot of great detail

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:16 AM

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:20 AM

 ..... works for me !!

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:07 PM

Now you have an excuse to look for another pacific that's missing it's pilot to add to your fleet!  Wink

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:55 PM

Don't tempt me ! I have no will power.

It is nice to keep some spare parts handy, just in case...

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 8:55 PM

Let's just call it a 

" pilot project" for adding to my roster...

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, May 11, 2019 9:22 PM

Looks like the transplant surgery went well Doc!  My complements!

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 9:46 PM

Thank you ! 

The problem was more in the cylinder casting, and less in the pilot. Although they sell a lot of pilots.

Trying to keep it mostly original, if possible...

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, May 12, 2019 11:55 AM

Here's a question to those knowledgeable in the ways of Flyer:

 

I've got the 282 converted to knuckle coupler already, having trouble removing the pin for 312's coupler. There is a tip about squeezing the pin with Needle nose pliers, but it ain't budging. Maybe not squeezing in the right place ?

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, May 12, 2019 6:13 PM

Got it out :

ate my Wheaties, and tapped it out with a hammer.

These trains were built to last forever...

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, May 12, 2019 6:34 PM

Knuckle down

 

 

 and do the work !

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, May 12, 2019 7:07 PM

We had a saying in the Marines...

"Never use force, get a bigger hammer!"

I'll tell you, that is one good-looking model of a PRR Pacific.  Almost makes me want to get into S-gauge.

Almost.  I've got so much O-gauge stuff right now it's getting ridiculous.  Time to thin the herd.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, May 12, 2019 7:43 PM

Many people would sell all their stuff, and change scales. Personally, I never got rid of anything, just keep adding scales.

I really felt it when we moved...

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Monday, May 13, 2019 7:32 AM

I just started following your thread, nice work on the Flyers.  As you will find out many of the parts are interchangeble.  If I may suggest, start a "junk yard" of parts only pieces.

And yes, they are addictive.

Jim

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, May 13, 2019 6:29 PM

Flintlock76
I'll tell you, that is one good-looking model of a PRR Pacific. Almost makes me want to get into S-gauge.

That would be the 561, in O gauge....Wink

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, May 13, 2019 7:39 PM

Oh great, a whole new make and model, with a whole new coupler system, and a whole new set of cars I'd have to find.

As Luke Skywalker once said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!   Crying

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Monday, May 13, 2019 8:16 PM

Sturgeon-Phish

I just started following your thread, nice work on the Flyers.  As you will find out many of the parts are interchangeble.  If I may suggest, start a "junk yard" of parts only pieces.

And yes, they are addictive.

Jim

 

Thank You so much !

I do the best I can with my limited skills, but they are fun to work on, and, especially to run.

Quality products, to be sure !

Parts are always good to have for all scales...

 

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Monday, May 13, 2019 8:20 PM

Penny Trains

 

 
Flintlock76
I'll tell you, that is one good-looking model of a PRR Pacific. Almost makes me want to get into S-gauge.

 

That would be the 561, in O gauge....Wink

 

not that I am turning a blind eye to this...

but I am afraid that if I acknowledge that it exists.....

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:46 PM

Having a mildly frustrating day with reverse units, and wiring

 

 nothing working

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:51 PM

The 282 won't turn a wheel

 

 

 

 the 312 ran briefly forward and reverse

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:55 PM

So I decided to go back to the hot wire test. Both engines run beautifully

 

 

 

and, the 312 smokes ! The 282 lays out clouds of smoke.

 so when I get the reverse units sorted out....

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:11 PM

 Yeah !

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:15 PM

 That's what I'm talkin' about !!!

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Posted by Penny Trains on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 7:36 PM

Luke!

You MUSTdiversify your gauges!  Search your feelings, you KNOW this to be true!

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 7:38 PM

One of the downfalls of the AF engines is the sticking reverse units.  Lots of moving parts that can be frustrating.  The CRC contact cleaner works great on the drum, and replacement fingers is better than trying to repair worn ones.  The tiny pawl sticking can be especially problematic.  To find which direction to go start by flipping the bottom of the solenoid to see if everything is operating properly, and remember to keep the tender up right because the unit uses gravity to cycle the solenoid core.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:58 PM

Sturgeon-Phish

One of the downfalls of the AF engines is the sticking reverse units.  Lots of moving parts that can be frustrating.  The CRC contact cleaner works great on the drum, and replacement fingers is better than trying to repair worn ones.  The tiny pawl sticking can be especially problematic.  To find which direction to go start by flipping the bottom of the solenoid to see if everything is operating properly, and remember to keep the tender up right because the unit uses gravity to cycle the solenoid core.

Jim

Very knowledgeable advice, thank you !
I have been analyzing what the problem is, and, sadly it may be me...
I have 2 rebuilt reverse units with shiny drums, and new fingers. I have followed the wiring diagram, but neither engine will move. A clue is that nether engine has the headlight come on. I have the same "open" in both engines, I probably missed a wire someplace...
 
I usually find it best in a situation such as this, to set it down, and come back another day with fresh eyes...
 
Much Thanks, 
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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:59 PM

Penny Trains

Luke!

You MUSTdiversify your gauges!  Search your feelings, you KNOW this to be true!

Wise,
very wise.... 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 8:36 AM

Postwar Paul

 

 
Penny Trains

Luke!

You MUSTdiversify your gauges!  Search your feelings, you KNOW this to be true!

Wise,
very wise.... 

 

 

 

I didn't know Lord Vader was a G-Gauger.  Considering his mean streak I figured him for a too-tightly-wrapped HO gauge rivet-counter.  Ever look in on the "Model Railroader" Forum?  Some of those guys are strange...

Isn't the whole point of G gauge relaxation and whimsy? 

Maybe Rene Schweitzer should have a talk with him, considering her time with "Garden Railways."

That boy needs to chill out!   Toy trains are supposed to be about relaxation and fun!

I find his lack of faith disturbing.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:14 PM

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