The 312 project

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The 312 project
Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:40 PM

New additions to the tribe :

 

a 282 and a 312, both in " fixer upper" condition 

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:43 PM

 But fixing these old trains is half the fun, isn't it ?

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:46 PM

 If anyone knows a good source for Flyer parts, please Shout Out !

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:50 PM

 Here's a side by side with HO brass K-5's from Westside, circa 1972

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:54 PM

 Gonna have fun rebuilding them. They will roll out of the shop with knuckle couplers. This brings the Flyer roster to 6.

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Posted by rrswede on Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:47 PM

You are correct. Getting the "oldies" running is a lot of fun.

As for parts, give Doug at Port Lines a call. www.portlines.com

Jeff Kane at http://ttender.com/ also carries some parts.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, April 13, 2019 4:42 PM

Thank you for the great advice !

I'll need to go through these and determine what is needed. The 312 has a bent pilot, but it appears to be a separate casting from the frame, so if it can't be straightened, I'll need a replacement part. I haven't gotten into the mechanisms yet, don't know what I'll find.

It'll be great to see them run again !

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:30 PM

Big Smile  I'm Cuckoo For Choo Choo Stuffs!  Big Smile

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, April 13, 2019 7:22 PM

Thank you, that helps ! 

I can see some of the parts I'll need in those pictures already.

Just have to do the work,

Thanks so much !

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:28 PM

Cleaned and lubed the 282:

 

 

 motor runs well, light comes on, no smoke however. Have not tested the reverser yet. I didn't realize this has a plastic boiler shell, looks great, though.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:38 PM

Cleaned and lubed the 312's motor, and put it back in the shell.

 

 

 some prior owner put Lionel whistle brushes in her, but they are working great, so I left them in. The motor runs great !!! Very loud chuffing sound, gonna have a lot of fun with this one.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:46 PM

The problem with the front end :

 

 

the pilot has has a slight bend, but the mounting tongue for the pilot, which is on the front of the cylinder cast ing, is cracked and has a severe bend. Both will need to be replaced.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:51 PM

So, I'm making a list. Most things seem to be cosmetic.

 

....to be continued....

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Friday, April 19, 2019 7:41 PM

 It turns out the 282 motor does smoke after all...

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Friday, April 19, 2019 7:46 PM

And very nicely

 

 

 thank you very much !

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Friday, April 19, 2019 7:49 PM

 But not getting any smoke from the 312 yet

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Friday, April 19, 2019 7:52 PM

So, add that to my list. Neither reverser works presently, although I can hear them cycling. Both have at least 1 broken wire in the tether between engine and tender. Still much more work ahead.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, April 21, 2019 12:17 PM

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, April 21, 2019 12:19 PM

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, April 28, 2019 12:04 PM

We have proven that the 282, and 312 both have good running motors.

 

but, both engin es will need repair on the reverses: the 282 s has a broken fingerboard. The 312 has a deeply grooved drum. Gonna take some time to work through these issues.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, April 28, 2019 6:34 PM

Flyer K's are real works of art.

Big Smile  I'm Cuckoo For Choo Choo Stuffs!  Big Smile

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, April 28, 2019 7:53 PM

with these old trains, you find what you find. But if there is an engine you really want, the one you find might need a little work. 

I've really wanted one of these for some time now. I don't mind having to fix it. The shells, boiler and tender are in good shape.

It's totally worth it !!

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, April 29, 2019 6:25 PM

I'm hip.  My 310 has a pikemaster truck, the wrong boiler front and a jerry-rigged drawbar.  But she sure is pretty!  Big Smile

Big Smile  I'm Cuckoo For Choo Choo Stuffs!  Big Smile

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Posted by kblester on Friday, May 03, 2019 12:41 AM

Best of luck with your project. I still have my Dad's 312 from the 50's. Funny, I remember that engine being about 3 feet long in my childhood. His Great Grandchildren love it.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Friday, May 03, 2019 8:10 PM

Thank you so much !

I have gone as far as I can go with the original parts, and am making up my list of things to order. 

Of course, I work on it when I'm in the mood...

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Posted by dextian on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:45 PM
That's a cool project. Rebuilding old trains is really fun. Good luck!

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:00 PM

Parts are on order from 2 different suppliers. Thank you to those who have responded with suggestions.

Paul

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:44 PM

These guys are really on the job !!

 

I ordered from both these suppliers on Sunday, both packages came in today ( Thursday )

great service !

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:49 PM

I must say all the parts people I have worked with has been a very positive experience.

 

 

 Now, to buckle down and do the work !

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:06 AM

I started to use the reproduction pilot I bought

 

 

 

 but made a discovery....

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