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72" curves aren't large enough for a 50 car train.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Monday, May 13, 2013 7:44 PM

If the wheel or axle is really gummed up, just pop the axle out of the truck and clean the wheels and axle with Goo Gone or alcohol.  Re-install the axle and wheels and put a drop of oil on the end points. 

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Posted by gunrunnerjohn on Monday, May 13, 2013 10:36 AM

I suggest trying it on a single "old" car to test, but I've done a bunch of plastic trucks with Isopropyl alcohol and it's never done anything to them.  What it WILL do is remove many kinds of paint, so getting it on painted stuff is probably not a keen idea! Wink  I use alcohol a lot for cleaning, I just avoid using it on painted shells.  Works fine for diecast stuff, I've never had that paint be damaged with it, but I've seen it take lettering off diesel shells.

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Posted by Boyd on Monday, May 13, 2013 10:32 AM

Are you sure alcohol won't degrade the plastic? Several years ago I used either alcohol or paint thinner to try to remove paint from a hood on a plastic model Mustang and the hood started to come apart. I'm thinking a used toothbrush would be a good tool to use.

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Posted by gunrunnerjohn on Monday, May 13, 2013 7:57 AM

I use some solvent or even Isopropyl alcohol and then oil them with a drop of light oil.  If these are the MPC ones with plastic trucks, they require very little lube.

Don't discount cleaning the wheels themselves, I've seen a heavy layer of black crud build up on the wheels, that will affect the rolling resistance as well.

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Posted by Boyd on Monday, May 13, 2013 12:15 AM

I haven't checked all of the 200 axles of those 50 cars that I used. I think there might have been some that are gummed up. How do you clean up a gummed up MPC era truck and axles?

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:06 PM

After viewing the video, I would suggest:

1. Checking and oiling all truck pivots.

2. Checking the axles and oil points if needed.

3. Reduce the train by one car.

4. Add a little weight to these very light MPC cars.  (Fishing weights should work.)

5. Track needs to be very close to level.

I really did not see string lining developing, but observed a shoving action and a possible dragging wheel or bad pivoting truck.

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Posted by gunrunnerjohn on Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:49 PM

I've run 53 freight cars behind two Legacy PRR U-Boat engines, they did fine on the club layout, including the 2.5 degree grade into the tunnel.  Curves are 72" and larger for the entire mainline, I didn't try any tighter curves.

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Posted by lion88roar on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:49 AM

Wayne - it was an 'assumption' made by viewing 1 second of the video. Since the engines appeared to be in 'the middle of the train'.

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Posted by Boyd on Monday, April 29, 2013 3:38 PM
No TMCC of any kind. GP38 wanted to go faster when I had just the engines on the track not coupled to each other. At one point I had this train going for about 4 minutes without derailing but not on this video. I need to check all the wheels I think some don't turn as well.

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Posted by webenda on Monday, April 29, 2013 2:59 PM
lion88roar

What you have going on is the engines in front pulling at one voltage (speed), the engines in the middle pushing and pulling at another voltage (speed), and the engines in back pushing at another voltage (speed)

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Which video did you see that on?

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Posted by KRM on Monday, April 29, 2013 2:57 PM

I am surprised you had that much luck. Those are some super light weight MPC. cars. With only one engine they will stringline. Fun idea.

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Posted by webenda on Monday, April 29, 2013 2:45 PM

Boyd,

Did you try running with 49 cars so the engines will not push cars off the track?

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Posted by lion88roar on Monday, April 29, 2013 2:24 PM

There is something wrong with the video you uploaded to YouTube...

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Are you attempting this using Conventional/TMCC/Legacy?

This would be near impossible using Conventional because you have engines at the front, in the middle, and at the end - all with different motors - all with different starting points on the track - all with different voltages...

This would be near impossible even with TMCC equiped engine as they have different startup points.

With Legacy this MAY be possible because you can identify the engine, type (TMCC/Legacy) and let the Legacy system start the engines, then apply the correct voltage to the motors.

What you have going on is the engines in front pulling at one voltage (speed), the engines in the middle pushing and pulling at another voltage (speed), and the engines in back pushing at another voltage (speed).

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Posted by Boyd on Monday, April 29, 2013 11:20 AM

I'm not good with computers. I will try and post the link again.

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Posted by webenda on Monday, April 29, 2013 10:54 AM

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Posted by Boyd on Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:37 PM
Search on YouTube"50 Lionel 9013. It's just over 8 minutes long under Boyd W.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:59 PM

The link doesn't work, not even after being made active.

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Posted by KRM on Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:36 PM

Boyd,

You need to arrange the cars from the heaviest to the lightest or they will always pull off the heavy end cars and you don't need 50 cars to do it. Put weight in the front cars and see if that helps.

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Posted by Boyd on Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:45 PM

Boyd

I was surprised that I still had trouble with a train stringlining with 72" curve track at each end. I did have fun running it. I did get the train to run for 3-4 minutes without derailing but I did not get video of it. Here is my youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch/v=cI-O3mIzq_U

If this doesn't work, can someone here activate my link?

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72" curves aren't large enough for a 50 car train.
Posted by Boyd on Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:42 PM

I was surprised that I still had trouble with a train stringlining with 72" curve track at each end. I did have fun running it. I did get the train to run for 3-4 minutes without derailing but I did not get video of it. Here is my youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch/v=cI-O3mIzq_U

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