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Info wanted on old Lionel train
Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:23 AM

 Hi there

I have this old Lionel train and would like some information on it like how old it is and what it;s called and so on.

 

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:40 AM

 1936 -1937 1700E Lionel Junior streamliner.

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Posted by DMUinCT on Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:47 AM

"Distance Control Streamliner" --- three years only, 1935 to 1937 -- Red and Silver

Set 1065E, First cataloged in 1935 as three unit train set. "Lionel JR. Trains", ran on O-27 "Lionel-Ives" track.$7.95, Smooth chromium plated sided cars.

Set1071E, cataloged in 1036 as a four unit train, "Lionel Jr. Distance Control Streamliner". $8.75 --  Fluted, chromium plated sided cars.

Same in 1937 as 1936 but price is now $9.75

In Orange and Silver, uncataloged as the "Silver Streak" 

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Also cataloged as a three car "Wind-Up" train set in Orange and Silver.

Set 1535 in 1935 (smooth sided) $2.00

Set 1551 in 1936 (fluted sides) $2.00

Set 1551 in 1937 same as 1936 $2.50

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Is the brown top factory? or a brush job?  If the Chromium is good, very collectible

 

 

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 12:03 PM

 The top is not brown; it just is because my phone is the camera. Top is nice chrome.As seen in the last picture, where the side looks brown too.

 It is in good running condition.

Highly collectible you said, what do I have to think of pricewise?

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 12:30 PM

 

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Posted by wyomingscout on Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:08 PM

Chief big ol' Cadillac
Highly collectible you said, what do I have to think of pricewise?

 

 

Wow!!  Looks like a keeper to me.  I'm sure it's worth a lot more than I could pay.  You might check out some ot the online auction houses or  old train sites.

Good luck if you decide to sell.

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:39 PM

 I also have this American Flyer trainset.

 

 

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:21 PM

Chief big ol' Cadillac
 

Highly collectible you said, what do I have to think of pricewise?

 

Highly collectible, that is, if that's what you collect. 

Complete and in excellent condition, with all boxes, track, transformer, accessories & manuals, and a set box, you are looking in the range of a new Polar Express set.  Higher, of course in LN condition.

Rob

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:11 PM

 No, just got the train, no boxes and whatsoever. I do have tracks but that is for my other Lionel set. For a transformer I use a Märklin transformer as because of we have 220 Volts over here; an original 110V won't work.

So just the train, how much will that be worth? (insurance wants to know)

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Posted by Dub on Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:12 PM

All I found out, is that the American Flyer engine is S gage, and identified as a 300 series engine with a five digit cab number, 21160.

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:15 PM

 Yes, the American Flyer is in S guage. the locomotive is an "Atlantic". The cab number is 21160

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:28 PM

 This is my other set, complete with tracks and a couple switches, a crossing and some small things like uncoupler and 'endtrack'

 How old is this and does it have a name or number? I believe the locomotive used to be orange but this is the way I got it. I got it as a 'souvenir' when we visited family in Canada in 1973. We were there for 3 weeks and after that we were asked what kind of souvernir we wanted. My sisters wanted some Indian arts but I wanted the trainset which was boxed up on the attic....

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:39 PM

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:51 PM

 Coffee Pot?  I am not familiar with forums so it might take a while where to find that coffee pot. Oh wait, .... is it good Coffee? I might smell it.... Tongue

 

edit: where can I find that Coffee Pot?

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Posted by ivesboy on Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:47 PM

    Curious to know if the 1700 cars are stamped made in usa on the bottoms. Lionel did this with export pieces in the prewar era. If not it probably migrated there with an original buyer. Its late 1936 production with the Lionel Jr. nameplate and chrome "L" emblem. In that shape it would bring around 200 USD. Not a rare or valuable train, but attractive and a great example of 1930's styling. The prototype for the Lionel 1700E was the "Rebel"which operated on the GM&O and was designed by Otto Kuhler.

If you are looking for a rare train, ask i might surprise you with an asking price!!! A guy asked if i liked fast track, and i replied i used t-rail. He said eww that old stuff you bolt together???? Ignorance must be bliss!
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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Sunday, December 27, 2009 3:15 AM

 Thank you for the info.

There is nothing stamped in the bottom but this came from an elderly American woman who lived in The Hague, Netherlands and was given to a boy of 12, where I used to 'babysit' his brothers (1+3). He didn't care for modeltrains and gave it to me. This was back in 1981.

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Posted by arkady on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:24 PM

There was the Lionel 1700E (with reverse unit) and the 1700 (without reverse unit, and, I believe, uncatalogued).  The 1700 does not have the red nose, and runs in one direction only.  Not sure about the years of production for the 1700.

 

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Posted by balidas on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:57 PM

Beautiful set!

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Posted by Chief big ol' Cadillac on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:59 AM

Thank you for your informations. It looks all original to me, red front and back and bottoms and nicely chrome, good running and it only runs forward, no reverse.

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Posted by charliebill on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:57 PM

Anyone remember or know about the time when the GM&O Rebel had a headon collision

with a GM&O freight train back in the 1950's near New Albany,Mississippi?

My Grandaddy (Charlie Pugh out of New Albany.Miss) was the engineer on the freight train that day. I was pretty young,maybe 7 or 8. It basically destroyed the Rebel's engine and mail car, and killed the mail guy. Grandad and his fireman,ole Price, jumped from their engine seconds before the impact and were not seriously injured. The freight engine was hardly damaged.

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