Pre War American Flyer Pictures - An Invitation

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:30 AM

The 6 Million Happy Owners tag on this caboose was unfamiliar to me.

I asked about the unfamiliar tag on the other forum where I had posted photos of the caboose and its Sold as Shopworn marking.  Rob English replied with the following information:

"There are 4 different 6 million plates... Orange background around dark blue shield was used on 4011 Buff/ Yellow cabooses and 4008 Orange / oxide red roofed cars only.  Distinctly different plate design.  Next is the Orange background, black shield smaller "million" plates on 1927 cars. There is now an aluminum outline on the shield. It had a reddish orange background, black shield and Aluminum letters, and plate outline. The third plate has the same color scheme, but had larger "Million" lettering and the "million" was in a serif font. The shield was widened to accommodate the bigger word. In 1928 the 7 Million plate appeared with a fancier shield design, and a sans-serif (except for the 7) font. The 8 Million plate was a return to the middle 6 million plate design, with changed number and reversed color scheme. This happened about 1930. There were 6 million plates on the latest cars (different shades of colors Like pale orange, rich 2017 green, etc.) were like the 8 million plate design, albeit with a 6 and on the black background, reddish orange shield.This plate was likely around 1932, a year before they pulled the plug on SG production."

Thanks Rob

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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, August 28, 2020 8:25 AM

24" long O-gauge bridge, I'm not sure if this is a Flyer bridge or not. Anyone?

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, August 28, 2020 10:29 AM

It looks more like a Marx Trestle Bridge.

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Posted by Rene Schweitzer on Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:50 AM

Hello all. I received a voice mail stating that some of the older photos here aren't appearing. Please note that this thread was started in 2008. We don't host photos on this forum, so any photo that's not appearing is because its host location isn't working/displaying the photos anymore.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:02 AM

Thanks for the response Rene. I believe that the voicemail that you received was from me. I thought I would start with the website to see if there was anything that could be done here. All of my photos are hosted by Shutterfly. I will make contact with them to see what the issue might be on their end.

Stay tuned......

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Posted by Rene Schweitzer on Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:20 AM

Northwoods Flyer

Thanks for the response Rene. I believe that the voicemail that you received was from me. I thought I would start with the website to see if there was anything that could be done here. All of my photos are hosted by Shutterfly. I will make contact with them to see what the issue might be on their end.

Stay tuned......

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Yes, check with Shutterfly and see if your account status has changed?

A couple of years ago Photobucket changed their policies and a bunch of photos wouldn't appear if you didn't pay for the service, whereas before it was free for X amount of space.

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Posted by AF53 on Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:20 AM

Hello all! It's been a long time. I sure hope the pictures return, it makes a huge difference.

 

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Monday, September 21, 2020 9:34 AM

Update:

I received an email from Shutterfly.  They are working on the issue.  Hopefully the missing photos will return soon.

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Posted by JonEddy on Monday, September 28, 2020 5:55 AM

Has anyone ever heard of an uncataloged St. Paul Red Eagle set with a 4633 engine? I saw this video by Dave Clark on youtube and it made me wonder if the Eagle set I got this summer was this version since it didn't have the correct engine with it but I did get a nice 4633 with no cars in the same bulk buy. Below are pics of my Eagle set and also the video I found on youtube.

Engine that was supposedly the correct engine for my set:

My 4633.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzMPS-ucR78

 

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 2:48 PM

Hi Jon,

These are the only "Eagle" marked cars that I have in my collection - both of them Observation Cars.

I have been on the lookout for an Eagle set for a while, however most of the ones that I have seen are pretty worn; or I should say well played with.  Yours look in great shape.

Given who the owner of the set in the video is I think you can trust the information that he provides about the set. 

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Posted by JonEddy on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 8:36 PM

Northwoods Flyer
I have been on the lookout for an Eagle set for a while, however most of the ones that I have seen are pretty worn; or I shoud say well played with.  Yours look in great shape. Given who the owner of the set in the video is I think you can trust the information that he provides about the set. 

Thanks! I have been watching his videos when I find the time because he has so many beautiful Flyer sets. He has an Empire Express video and you know how hard it is to find any info or pics of one let alone a video of the set running on a layout. Wink

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Posted by RHicks309 on Friday, October 2, 2020 4:57 PM

Speaking of the Eagle set, is the 4644 supposed to have one headlight or two?  You see examples of both for sale.  The 1927 catalog picture of an Eagle set shows a 4644 with only one.  Mine has one headlight with holes at the other end for another, but I suppose that could be because the same part was used on other versions, such as the 4684 pictured below.  Just wondering!

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Posted by JonEddy on Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:43 PM

RHicks309

Speaking of the Eagle set, is the 4644 supposed to have one headlight or two?  You see examples of both for sale.  The 1927 catalog picture of an Eagle set shows a 4644 with only one.  Mine has one headlight with holes at the other end for another, but I suppose that could be because the same part was used on other versions, such as the 4684 pictured below.  Just wondering!

Randall

 

Anything is possible, I've seen 4644's with the hooded lamp on one end and I believe they were just using up the old roof stock from the previous year when the 4643 came out in green with the hooded lamp.

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Posted by JonEddy on Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:08 PM

Nationwidelines
One unusual thing I noted about the above boxcar is that it only has a single brake wheel (and associated bracket). This must be some sort of factory error as all of the other early boxcars I have seen from the 1928-1930 era have two brake wheels, which makes it impossible to remove the roof, once the brake wheels and posts are installed.

Nationwide, I saw this old post and unfortunately the pictures are no longer showing up. I just picked up a Merchant set and it has one brake wheel and bracket but it does have a second bracket. Did your set have a second bracket without the brake wheel or was it missing?

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, November 20, 2020 10:21 AM

Hi Jon

I have both versions of the Merchant Set. One headed by the #3115 and one headed by the #3185.

Neither one of them came to me as boxed sets so I can't vouch for their authenticity.  One set has a box car with only one brake wheel and the other has a box car with two brake wheels. You can always count on American Flyer for variations.  Nice find.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, November 20, 2020 10:26 AM

Update on Missing Photos

As many of you have probably noticed most of the photos from the early days of the thread are no longer visible.  I have been in contact with Shutterfly, who is my photo host, and so far they  have not been able to correct the issue.  If you have a specific photo that you would like to see and if it is one of mine I can try to post it again.  I hope that we have not lost all of those early photos from so many of our contributors.

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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, November 20, 2020 10:31 AM

Northwoods Flyer

Hi Jon

I have both versions of the Merchant Set. One headed by the #3115 and one headed by the #3185.

Neither one of them came to me as boxed sets so I can't vouch for their authenticity.  One set has a box car with only one brake wheel and the other has a box car with two brake wheels. You can always count on American Flyer for variations.  Nice find.

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Those are some beautiful examples of the Merchant you've got there!

    Jon

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