my ne loco dont work...i tried to set it up so my gf could see it and i set the track up and all then nothing..i tried the codes that come with the rail king set but it keep flipping the transformer...so i looked under and all around every piece...i found 1 thing made me curious...the switch for the smoke is gone.....so i pulled it apart and pulled the motor out the way and there are 4 wires with a wire nut on them...two wire nuts with two wires to each...just wondering if this is the way it comes ? and if thats not my problem then what is? and just incase your wondering i did try it on my other track which is working and still no go it just causes my transformer to reset just like on the other track...i have no idea were to begin...
heres pics
Zeke, what you can do isn't much, but there are a few things to try. I noticed in your other thread about your yard sale finds you got a DC power pack. First, trace the wires that go to the smoke unit, and disconnect them if possible. Then to check the motor, connect it to the power pack using the DC terminals. It should run with only a few volts(3-6). If the motor runs, then the smoke unit is suspect.
The next step is to take it to a repair shop, and get an estimate of what repairs need to be made. MTH has several service stations in California, you can go to the MTH website at: www.mth-railking.com/service/center.asp and follow the instuctions on how to find a National Authorized Service Center/ Authorized Service center near you. A national service center is supposed to be able to repair ANY MTH engine, wether it's in or out of warranty, regardless of where it was bought.
Hope this helps get your engine fixed--
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willpick wrote: Zeke, what you can do isn't much, but there are a few things to try. I noticed in your other thread about your yard sale finds you got a DC power pack. First, trace the wires that go to the smoke unit, and disconnect them if possible. Then to check the motor, connect it to the power pack using the DC terminals. It should run with only a few volts(3-6). If the motor runs, then the smoke unit is suspect. The next step is to take it to a repair shop, and get an estimate of what repairs need to be made. MTH has several service stations in California, you can go to the MTH website at: www.mth-railking.com/service/center.asp and follow the instuctions on how to find a National Authorized Service Center/ Authorized Service center near you. A national service center is supposed to be able to repair ANY MTH engine, wether it's in or out of warranty, regardless of where it was bought.Hope this helps get your engine fixed--
thanks for the advice..the smoke unit can be unplugged so i will try that shortly...thanks for the tip
pbjwison--i didnt even know there was a battery in it.....lol thanks for that tip
forgot to mention it has loco sound.....
and what about the smoke switch being gone? was that a facory thing or not? thanks
and thanks every one else i will try these tips in a few minutes...need to guzzle some coffe down first!
Zeke,
The smoke switch is on the bottom of the tender on these engines. Yours isn't missing anything switches on the loco.
okay i checked everything you guys said...couldnt find the battery the manula dosent mention one either....
in the manual it shows and states thier is a switch on the engine..but i dont have one..
well i alos had that switch on and off nothing...
unplugged them wires to the smoke unit and nothing same thing happening...is there a place to get a wiring diagram? was looking but nothing
looks like its going to a fix it shop...
The battery is in the tender. Some look like white 9V battery, and others look like 2 AAs in a blue wrapper.
Ok, zeke, it's a Locosound engine. I'm not too familiar with Locosound engines, most of mine are PS2 with a few PS1 still around. I'm pretty sure there should be a tether cable that plugs into the engine-- there should be a multi-pin jack under the back edge of the cab-- There should also be a circuit board in the tender----
Did you try running the motor or the smoke unit yet? and if you can find the set number on the box, it would help to track down any information MTH has.
It should have a format like this: 30-xxxxx- as all the ready to run sets were/are Railking series---
When you plugged the tether in, did you make sure it curved upward? If it was curved downward, the boards can be damaged.
willpick wrote: First, trace the wires that go to the smoke unit, and disconnect them if possible. Then to check the motor, connect it to the power pack using the DC terminals. It should run with only a few volts(3-6). If the motor runs, then the smoke unit is suspect.
First, trace the wires that go to the smoke unit, and disconnect them if possible. Then to check the motor, connect it to the power pack using the DC terminals. It should run with only a few volts(3-6). If the motor runs, then the smoke unit is suspect.
i unplugged the smoke unit, nothing,
how do i connect the motor to the power pack?
found an item # 30-4033-0
jimtrumpie wrote: Zeke, When you plugged the tether in, did you make sure it curved upward? If it was curved downward, the boards can be damaged.
yes it curves up...wont go in the other way....besides i double checked this their are grooves on the plug and only allows one way in...
Zeke, all you need is 2 pieces of wire- The MRC power pack has 2 sets of terminals marked "cab 1" and "cab 2" just connect one wire to one terminal and one to the other, then turn up the knob about 1/3 of the way. touch the ends together, you should get a spark. the overload light may blink--that's ok. then you would put 1 wire on each of the motor terminals--I saw them in the pictures you took--
once you put voltage to the motor, it should run. If it does, then reinstall the motor to the frame, and put voltage on the motor again. The wheels should turn-- if they don't, then you can try turning the flywheel (the big brass knob with the stripes on it) by hand. The wheels should turn. IF the motor runs, and the wheels turn, the possibility exists that the board in the tender is bad, or the tether has open wires/broken pins,etc. The repair shop should have tethers, locosound boards are another matter---
i'm gonna go see if I can find some info on your set--
MTH has both the parts list/exploded diagram and the Manual on their website-- I did a quick search on Ebay for MTH 2-8-0 engines, most of them are PS2, but there are locosound engines still being made in 2007--- SO if your circuit board is toast, then it should be possible to get a replacement board.
willpick wrote: Zeke, all you need is 2 pieces of wire- The MRC power pack has 2 sets of terminals marked "cab 1" and "cab 2" just connect one wire to one terminal and one to the other, then turn up the knob about 1/3 of the way. touch the ends together, you should get a spark. the overload light may blink--that's ok. then you would put 1 wire on each of the motor terminals--I saw them in the pictures you took--once you put voltage to the motor, it should run. If it does, then reinstall the motor to the frame, and put voltage on the motor again. The wheels should turn-- if they don't, then you can try turning the flywheel (the big brass knob with the stripes on it) by hand. The wheels should turn. IF the motor runs, and the wheels turn, the possibility exists that the board in the tender is bad, or the tether has open wires/broken pins,etc. The repair shop should have tethers, locosound boards are another matter---i'm gonna go see if I can find some info on your set-- MTH has both the parts list/exploded diagram and the Manual on their website-- I did a quick search on Ebay for MTH 2-8-0 engines, most of them are PS2, but there are locosound engines still being made in 2007--- SO if your circuit board is toast, then it should be possible to get a replacement board.
im gonna try this in a minute...wait i cant my transformer is a z750 and remote controlled...doesnt have anything like that....
thanks for helping me
http://www.mth-railking.com/detail.asp?item=30-4033-0
ok i will go try that right now...and this isnt gonna hurt it?
good news i hope...the motor is a spining...wheels a moving...
but i forgot to un hook the smoke unit
Yes, if the tether has an open wire or broken pin that happens to be the wire that goes to the motor, the board could be ok, but since the voltage doesn't get to the motor, it would not run. What I suggest you do is open up the tender, and see if there are any broken wires, unplugged connectors,etc. Also look at the circuit board to see if there are any burned parts, etc.
It's up to you if you want it repaired, it may actually cost more than buying another engine from Ebay or other places. There are aftermarket boards that will get it running, but you won't have anything but a whistle and bell sound. Personally, I'd try to get it repaired by the MTH service center, but that's just my opinion, for what it's worth----
the tether looks fine ...i cant see or smell anything burnt...what about these wires haveing them wire nuts on them?
the tender looks good.. is there a way to test the tender? maybe by the on off switch?hooking power to it?
so theres no way to run this ?
even if it means losing sound?i wasnt gonna use the real trax anyways
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