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Post War Engine ?
Posted by traindaddy1 on Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:07 PM

IF you were going to purchase a Lionel Post War engine, be it steam or diesel, AND  if you were going to use it to haul a NYC load of Post War cars, AND you wanted it to work on O27, AND you wanted it to be powerful, what would you be looking for?  A lot of 'ands' but I enjoy your candid opinions.

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Posted by ben10ben on Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:25 PM
Assuming money were not a problem, and the engine were going to be hauling NYC cars, the most logical choice to me would be either a 773 Hudson or a set of NYC F-3s. The 773 would probably run about $1000, and the F-3s around $400.
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Posted by ben10ben on Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:29 PM
Oooops, I'm sorry, I missed the qualification of it having to run on O27.

I don't think that there were any vertical motored NYC F-3s, so that counts them out, and I doubt there's any way that you could get a 773 to run on O27.

The 675 is one of my favorite postwar steamers, but I don't quite think that it would be apropriate for NYC(the 675 is obviously a Pennsy-inspired design).

I might go with one of the Baby Hudsons, like a 2055 or 2056. They can run on O27, have plenty of power, and are good looking. They're all also not too expensive.
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Posted by pmilazzo on Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:08 PM
I second the 675 or the 2025 as my first choice, followed by the 2055 or 2056...All these engines can be had reasonable prices on any given day.
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Posted by msacco on Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:41 PM

Though I do love the 675/2025, I would also recommed the smaller Hudsons like 2046/2056, 685, 2055, etc. They're a little heavier and the magnetraction versions will haul even more.

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Posted by pbjwilson on Sunday, November 19, 2006 3:24 PM
If you want max pulling power I'd recommend a 736 Berkshire. Runs great on O-27 and can pull just about anything you have. And its a beautiful looking engine as well. All in all, just a classic postwar engine.
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Posted by traindaddy1 on Sunday, November 19, 2006 3:55 PM

Thanks to all for your suggestions.  2055 and 2056 engines look good and would compliment my 2035. I do like the 736 also, but for now, the nice looking ones that I have seen are a little too expensive for this "older" guy.  At least I know what you would select and, when I gather a few more pennies, I will be looking for those specific engines.   Thanks again.

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Posted by Frank53 on Sunday, November 19, 2006 4:17 PM

want to run some New York Central freight and looking for a post war O-27-able engine? I just picked up this one:

The 221 Dreyfus Hudson with New York Central right on the tender.

 

 

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Posted by msacco on Sunday, November 19, 2006 5:27 PM

Frank,

Nice engine. Always wanted one of those. I thought I remember reading somewhere that this guy won't go over O gauge switches (022s) well and it was truly designed for 027 switches

. What kind of switches are you running?

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Sunday, November 19, 2006 5:32 PM
Ben, I know that there is a way that you can get a 773 to run on O27, including modern Lionel O27 switches, because I did it.

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Posted by Frank53 on Sunday, November 19, 2006 7:33 PM
 msacco wrote:

Frank,

Nice engine. Always wanted one of those. I thought I remember reading somewhere that this guy won't go over O gauge switches (022s) well and it was truly designed for 027 switches

. What kind of switches are you running?

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Posted by RR Redneck on Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:34 PM
If it runs on three rails and is AC with Lionel stamped on it,.........................I LOVE IT!

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:57 PM
The 726/736 and 2046/2056/646 are much more representative of NYC outline locos(Alco's?) than the 2055/2065/665, which many folks think look more like AT&SF locos.

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Posted by jpelosi2002 on Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:05 PM
I'd go with the 2046. It looks like it belongs on the NYC, plus it's big (shares the same shell as the 736 with a different boiler face) and has magnatraction. The price is right for them and mine can actually outpull my 736.
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Posted by ChiefEagles on Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:16 PM

I guess no one likes the 2065. Sad [:(]

I do. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Frank53 on Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:52 PM

Here's a post war 224 toting some NY Central post war frieght.

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Posted by 3railguy on Monday, November 20, 2006 12:28 AM

The 221 is a good choice if you are using the smaller 027 cars. They work fine on 027 or O gauge switches. For the larger cars,  2046 or 2056 are good choices since they are NYC style steamers. Many Lionel steamers are Pennsy or Santa-Fe style.

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Monday, November 20, 2006 7:12 AM
 ChiefEagles wrote:

I guess no one likes the 2065. Sad [:(]



Lionel MPC did, in 1972, when it was reintroduced as the 8206 New York Central loco, with the feedwater heater & all... but with Baldwin Disc wheels, S-O-S, whistle, & traction tire.

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Posted by Jumijo on Monday, November 20, 2006 7:23 AM
 ADCX Rob wrote:
 ChiefEagles wrote:

I guess no one likes the 2065. Sad [:(]



Lionel MPC did, in 1972, when it was reintroduced as a New York Central loco, with the feedwater heater & all... but with Baldwin Disc wheels, S-O-S, whistle, & traction tire.

Rob


It was renumbered as an 8206. Nice looking, especially with the Baldwin drivers. Any one know if the MPC version is a good runner?

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Posted by LL675 on Monday, November 20, 2006 8:33 AM
already have it, my baby 2046. runs great, plenty of power. haven't had to do anything but oil and lube in the four years I've had it. and got it for under $200.

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Posted by 1688torpedo on Monday, November 20, 2006 9:24 AM
Hello All!    Jim A- The 8206 is a nice running engine with one exception & that is the Drive Wheels were mounted off center on some of the 8206s & result in a engine that waddles like a Penquin! So,if you find one. run it first to see if it waddles. The solution for this would be to have them re-wheeled so that the Drivers are centered on the Axles properly. Take Care.
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Posted by traindaddy1 on Monday, November 20, 2006 4:45 PM
Just catching up with my reading. Thanks, again, to all.

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