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Help identifying Lionel Diesel

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Help identifying Lionel Diesel
Posted by kpolak on Thursday, March 9, 2006 4:51 PM
I have the base only of a lionel diesel, and would like help identifying it, if that's possible.
It has a black base, with railings similar to a 2337/2339 Wabash, 2338 Milwwaukee Road, or a 2348 Minn & St. Louis.

The motor has a vertical worm gear drive, front and rear lights, a 2-position e-unit (on or off), and operable couplers. The couplers operate with a steel disk.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you,
Kurt
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Posted by 1688torpedo on Thursday, March 9, 2006 7:48 PM
Hello Kurt! From your despription it sounds like you have the frame for a NW-2 Class Diesel Switcher from the 1970's period as they had a 2-way switch and a Motor with a double wound field with Red & Green windings wrapped around the coil of the field & red & green windings on the Armature itself. If you need a Shell for this engine go to Warren's Model Trains Website & give them a try as they have a variety of shells that should fit your Frame or you can call them at 1-440-331-2900. Hope this helps. Take Care. P.S.- The NW-2s from that time period did not have rear operating lights. Sounds like one was added to the frame.
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Posted by dwiemer on Thursday, March 9, 2006 8:09 PM
Kurt,
You could go to the Lionel site and get to the customer service section, then follow the lead to the diagrams and do a search on the NW2 or any other engine you may think it might be. Then just look for the diagram that looks closest to what you have.
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Posted by ADCX Rob on Thursday, March 9, 2006 8:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kpolak


I have the base only of a lionel diesel, and would like help identifying it, if that's possible.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you,
Kurt


Need more info. 2 position(pendulum) & 3 position(drum) e-units both have on & off. Which direction does the e-unit lever point & does it swing L-R or forward-back?

What is the length of the frame? Is there a hole in the middle of the floor the size of a D battery? Is the motor built as part of the power truck or is it seperate, & set down into the truck through the frame? Does it have Magnetraction? One axle or two? Does it have rubber tire traction? Are the bulb sockets equal height? Are they bayonet bases or wedge bases? What color is the motor brush plate? What color(s) are the field winding(s)? What color(s) are the armature pole winding(s)? Are the wheels sintered powdered iron or zinc-based castings? Blomberg or AAR trucks? Plastic or die-cast side frames?

Rob

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Posted by kpolak on Friday, March 10, 2006 5:26 AM
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the interest.
E-unit lever is toward the frontand has copper color windings.
Frame is 13-3/8-inches long.
There is a battery box, the whistle unit is missing.
Power truck is cast, with a recess for the worm gear from the motor. Power is transferred to both front wheels thru connecting gears, and plastic bushings.
I'm not sure on the magna traction.
Lights are the same height, angled outward, and the sockets are a push-down, and twist metal base.
Motor brush plate is black, the windings are copper color.
Wheels similar to the post war wheels, with di-cast side frames.
Thank you,
Kurt

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Friday, March 10, 2006 7:15 AM
Your 2338 / 2339 / 2348 guesses seem to be right on the money. The 2337 had fixed(non-op) couplers.

Your further description pretty much eliminates MPC/CPG production.

Rob

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Posted by kpolak on Friday, March 10, 2006 7:46 AM
Thank you for clarifying...
I'm in the process of reviving my old set. My father and I used to pick-up trains at flea markets, when I was much younger. I finally have the time to dig them out.
This will help greatly.
Thank you,
Kurt

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