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How Protective Are You of Your Trains?
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:18 PM
A friend of mine participates at train shows and always brings plenty of equipment to run on the O gauge layout he and some other guys built. He transports his rolling stock in large plastic containers. That's it! No newspaper, bubble wrap or packing of any kind! The trains just go straight in! This even includes a number of expensive Lionel and MTH covered hoppers that make up a Canadian grain train! Sure, they're placed in neatly, but I still cannot fathom how someone could be so neglectful.

It also angers me when I buy trains from people and they put them in a BAG! It's often train dealers who do this, too!

As for me, I'm a collector and am absolutely paranoid about any of my trains getting even the slightest scratch on them. I could be transporting a junk Marx set that isn't even good for parts and I'll be sure to carefully wrap each piece up in bubble wrap and make sure that they can't move around in the box. Even then, I'm a little uneasy. I will admit that our trains are tough and that the trains I've bought unpackaged in bags or boxes have never been damaged as a result, but I still don't have the courage to attempt such a thing.

Now, these are both extreme ends of the spectrum. I'm curious as to where you guys stand. Are you trusting in the toughness and durability of your trains to be hauled around any old way like my friend or are you an obsessive-compulsive condition freak like myself?
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Posted by prewardude on Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:30 PM
I'm definitely obsessive/compulsive about my trains, too - and not just the trains, but the boxes as well! Heck, I won't even handle my Standard gauge stuff without washing my hands first. I don't like smudges on enameled tinplate. I'm a little less careful with plastic O gauge stuff, but not much.
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Posted by IronHoarse on Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:51 PM
I am obsessive compulsive for sure. This stuff is way too expensive for me to be any other way.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:28 PM
I'm getting lazy in my old age, or perhaps smarter. When I pack for train shows, I only wrap every other piece in newspaper or bubble wrap, then place them in the box in an alternating pattern, so they don't rub. Half the effort, seems to work just fine. I have completely lost the collector mentality, and have stopped worrying about scratches and resale value.
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Posted by Kooljock1 on Monday, November 14, 2005 2:50 AM
Yeah Big Boy! We don't have to worry about resale value...only our ancestors do!

I do exactly the same thing...every other car in bubble wrap or foam packing sheets workds just fine.

As far as buying from a dealer, if it doesn't come in a box, I don't want it anyway.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 14, 2005 5:02 AM
When I take a loco to a friends house. I will wrap the loco and tender each in a white terry cloth towel and place them carefully in a suitable plastic container. I'm afraid of damaging the manufacturers box for transport.
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Posted by Tom1947 on Monday, November 14, 2005 7:50 AM
I have read on a couple of different forms that packing trains in bubble wrap can case dish like marks in the paint from the gas that is used in the bubbles leaking. For storage I have been using the packing papper that you buy at U-Haul. I did use acid free tissue paper but that got hard to find. I am very careful about how my trains are packed and handled.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 14, 2005 8:47 AM
I keep all my trains in their boxes or on the layout. If I need to move an engine I place it back into the box it came in. The engines I get from lionel and atlas are packed very well. I think they are safe in their boxes. The only problem is getting Atlas engines out of their styrofoam packing. I almost break some of the small detailed parts when I try to remove Atlas engines. Lionel egines are much easier to get in and out of the packing and boxes. I am very careful with my trains.
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Posted by cnw1995 on Monday, November 14, 2005 8:54 AM
On the infrequent times I carry my trains around, I wrap them in dishtowels and put them in a shopping bag. But I'm not really a collector. I let visitors and kids touch them. I guess I do not own anything of great value. That said, I like to see them treated with a respect that merits their respective purchase price

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Posted by palallin on Monday, November 14, 2005 5:30 PM
I use old bath towels and plastic containers when I bring trains to the club or a friend's layout. I cannot possibly store all my boxes so that they are handy enough to use, and a fair portion of my stock has no surviving box, anyway.
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Posted by BMRR on Monday, November 14, 2005 6:22 PM
I'm very protective of my trains, [ N and O scale ] . If they are not on the track, they are in the box. I take very good care of the boxes also.

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Posted by tmcc man on Monday, November 14, 2005 6:30 PM
I am protective of all of my trains. I will not let anyone run/touch the trains I own. If it is an adult, I will. If it is a kid, heck no!!!! I am not as protective at train shows with my G Scale equipment, because all of the members know what they are doing. I package them in the peanut pellets from for my O rolling stock, and keep my G in the boxes, and put the cars boxes in containers to make it easier to carry. I never will use newspaper because the letters could stay on the cars.
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Posted by laz 57 on Monday, November 14, 2005 6:31 PM
I pack heat so stay away from my TRAINS[;)]!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by okiechoochoo on Monday, November 14, 2005 7:07 PM
Very very protective. Very will packaged and carefully transported to shows. My biggest worry is from show attendees. While most, notice I say most, adults seem to understand "do not handle" signs, it is the children that insist upon touching everything on every table that cause me near coronaries. Child control shouldn't be that difficult.

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Posted by tmcc man on Monday, November 14, 2005 8:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by okiechoochoo

Very very protective. Very will packaged and carefully transported to shows. My biggest worry is from show attendees. While most, notice I say most, adults seem to understand "do not handle" signs, it is the children that insist upon touching everything on every table that cause me near coronaries. Child control shouldn't be that difficult.


I have to agree with you there. But some parents do not teach manners, or not to touch things that they should not.
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Posted by alstom on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:25 AM
I'm definately obssesive + compulsive about my trains. When I get a new loco, I freak if even the slightest thing gets on it! I like my models to be in tip-top shape and that's how I always want it [^][8]!!
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Posted by SteelMonsters on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:04 AM
I know a couple guys with 1/8th scale 7 1/4" gauge that will ram trains together if the brakeman accidentally gives that signal.
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Posted by cwburfle on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:05 PM
One or two people posted that they use bubble wrap or newspapers. The bubble wrap will damage trains over time. Last I knew, newpaper is very high in acid, and the newsprint rubs off.

If you bring a train to a show, expect it to be touched.
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Posted by okiechoochoo on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cwburfle

One or two people posted that they use bubble wrap or newspapers. The bubble wrap will damage trains over time. Last I knew, newpaper is very high in acid, and the newsprint rubs off.

If you bring a train to a show, expect it to be touched.


I know they will try but I keep a very close watch on little hands.[:(!]

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Posted by artyoung on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:16 PM
I stopped being paranoid about our trains quite some time ago when I noticed that no matter how often my daughter "helped" the figures on her Postwar Newsstand move, it just kept on working. I figured if I wanted her to be interested in trains, and to STAY interested, I should just accept an occasional accident and not limit which ones she could play with. Well, guess what? No major accidents in 15 years AND she writes for the TCAQ (Daddy's proud, too!). So, lighten up!
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Posted by otftch on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:59 PM
I use bath towels to wrap each train and carry all in plastic container.I take the chaeper locos to shows to run on our layout as I believe kids should be allowed to touch.After all,aren't we trying to get them interested ? Nothing is more gratifying than watching the smile when you let a child pu***he whistle button.I find its the "grown-ups" you have to watch at shows anyway.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by okiechoochoo
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My biggest worry is from show attendees. While most, notice I say most, adults seem to understand "do not handle" signs, it is the children that insist upon touching everything on every table that cause me near coronaries.


Last night I read a article in a older MR issue about a HUGE public train display in Hamburg, Germany. The owners said the reverse was true...the adults were a worse problem...with some of them leaning over and rapping mountains to see what they were made of.
I worry more about my scenics than the trains. Some of my adult viewers are "cronic pointers"...that is, they HAVE to have their finger very close to what they are referring to. Of course, other items get hit in the process. If I see this, I cut the "show" short.
In any event, I know I would not have the stomach to oversee a public display. Joe
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Posted by andregg1 on Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:34 AM
HI
For me the trains are train, so if you can see scratches and dents look more trains. But I keep all mechanical parts pristine and in perfect conditions.
When the engine run fine and quiet better for me than a good paint.
Is true that they are expensive, but when you die who care?
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Posted by okiechoochoo on Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:04 PM
Originally posted by artyoung

I stopped being paranoid about our trains quite some time ago when I noticed that no matter how often my daughter "helped" the figures on her Postwar Newsstand move, it just kept on working. I figured if I wanted her to be interested in trains, and to STAY interested, I should just accept an occasional accident and not limit which ones she could play with. Well, guess what? No major accidents in 15 years AND she writes for the TCAQ (Daddy's proud, too!). So, lighten up!
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It is one thing for your kid to play with your toys than it is for someone's kid to maul my collectable trains. You are not trying to sell yours, I am. Whole different ballgame

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Posted by M1Tanker on Friday, November 25, 2005 8:33 AM
I am less protective about my trains and my layout than ever before. My 13yo does much of the scenery work. Does he get messy? Yup. Does he overspray with glue? Yup. Does he handle engines rougher than I would? Yup.

The POINT is however he is doing all the above b/c he can and wants to. If he breaks anything it will be from the best intent..whereas Dad remembers disconnecting some track off the trestles on his layout when young to watch our 2037 "wreck". So since he has never done anything like that, I suppose I am ahead of the game.
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Posted by ChiefEagles on Friday, November 25, 2005 10:57 AM
M1, he is interested and not getting in trouble. That is good. My getting my son into trains at an early age gave him the wiring knowledge that made him famous in automotive electronics [even though he is a Dupty Sheriff, but relied on to fix or make up things for the dept's vehicles]. You never know where this will lead him. Let him go. [:)] Let my Nephew [same age] run trains last night with CAB1 and DCS remotes. First time I've let anyone run them but me. He did fine.

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Posted by M1Tanker on Friday, November 25, 2005 11:01 AM
Chief:

I agree with your electronics comments as well. Teaching him how to strip wire and trouble shoot ( the Army is big on that with PMCS) helps. What this serves for in a larger sense is acreative outlet and a way of problem solving. I ran into that myself yesterday and can hardly wait to get home to fix a problem!
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Posted by ChiefEagles on Friday, November 25, 2005 11:05 AM
M1, send me an email [yours is not listed in profile]. Nike Herc, Army Air Defense, 68 thru 69.

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Posted by cnw1995 on Friday, November 25, 2005 11:11 AM
Had a basement full of kids watching and operating the trains last evening. Mostly 10-11 in age. They were fairly respectful - loved to run fast - which then derailed whatever was running on a curve in the far corner of the layout of course, but they got the hang of it after a while. I worked through my trepidation.

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Posted by M1Tanker on Friday, November 25, 2005 11:14 AM
Sometimes the person I worry most about running them is...me. I try to multi-task at times and leave trains run to get engine time in and wander off due to other work or family needs Dad things....

Your night sounded fun though!

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