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Help with Williams electric locomotive
Posted by trainguy59 on Thursday, October 20, 2022 8:25 PM

Just bought a Williams model of a New Haven EP4 Electric locomotive. It's a double ended electric with 2 pantogrphs. it has a 2CC2 wheel arrangement just like a GG1. It's painted in the old Green and Gold stripe scheme. It,s numbered 363. I can,t find any information about it anywhere, I,m stumped. Any info would help.

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Posted by Leverettrailfan on Monday, October 24, 2022 9:59 PM

Information about the prototype, or the model?
I'm going to assume the latter, since it's not too hard to find info about the prototype by doing a web search for "New Haven EP4".
I didn't know anything about this class before, so it was pretty interesting to read about. They certainly have very striking looks!
I know MTH made a model of both the EP3 and the EF-3A, the latter of which is a dead ringer for the EP4. But if yours is a Williams... I'm fascinated and curious to know more. They seem like very niche locmotives to produce (not that I'm complaining, love me some New Haven electric power!)

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Posted by Leverettrailfan on Monday, October 24, 2022 10:07 PM

Update....
I just did a search on the 'bay, and think I found the loco you bought.
Looking at it, the answer seems pretty obvious (to me): It's a GG1 chassis, with two F3 shells that were cut short and spliced together to make the cab. 
If you look carefully in the pictures of the side, you can see signs of the 'seam' where they meet.
The paint and decals certainly have suffered a little, but it seems to have been executed well enough- definitely there's more you could do to bring it closer to the prototype, but as is it's a really fun model.

-Ellie

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, October 25, 2022 5:14 AM

Post some pics?

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Posted by pennytrains on Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:22 PM

To make things even more mysterious, the only manual Bachmann has up at all in their service section of their website is for a 4-6-0.  I have a feeling Bachmann/Kader doesn't own the Williams line anymore.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:45 PM

pennytrains
I have a feeling Bachmann/Kader doesn't own the Williams line anymore.

Maybe someone's going to pick up the Williams ball and run with it?

Most likely Bachmann's letting the whole line go moribund and not doing another thing with it. 

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Posted by trainguy59 on Sunday, November 6, 2022 9:46 AM

Thank you to your response . I have it apart on my work bench. Definetly a GG1 chassis. Runs beautiful and the horn and bell are great. Your probably right about the body.... it could be a frankinstien lol but done very nicely. I just received the pantograh insulators from Trainz that were missing so I will be reinsalling them this week. Hopefully I'll finally be able Flicker or one of the other picture sites to post photos. It really is interesting to see. Sorry for the posting delay. Between York and now the Reading and Northern steam train rides it's been busy . 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, November 7, 2022 3:31 PM

trainguy59
the Reading and Northern steam train rides

I've been watching some R&N railfan videos on YouTube!  WOW!  You must have had a ball!

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Posted by trainguy59 on Friday, November 11, 2022 9:01 PM

It was an amazing ride. As much as I would have loved to be behind the 2102, the 425 is a beautiful locomotive. We had a 15 car train. 425 being a light pacific needed deisel assist but that was fine. Views from the dome car were unbeleivable. Wife and I already have tickets for the Christmas train out of Minersville Pa. behind Jersey Central 113. 

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