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Hey, Look What I Found! (Actually, It Found ME!)

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Hey, Look What I Found! (Actually, It Found ME!)
Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, October 3, 2021 11:55 AM

It's Walt Disney, talkin' toy trains!  Well, sort of.  Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7grVAeRSA

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Posted by pennytrains on Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:06 PM

There's only one thing that can follow that up.....HOttSnOz!

https://youtu.be/jDl8aOoaXcU

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, October 3, 2021 7:27 PM

Well that made my evening!  Thanks Becky!

I wonder where Ward got that good-lookin' PA?

Oh well, got a notification from the Henning's Trains Channel, gotta go!

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Posted by Swiss-Colorado-Lines on Sunday, October 3, 2021 10:27 PM

I was just watching that video yesterday... like you say,it just popped up when I was watching You Tube.

This proves that all the Rumors are true....

Walt was one of us.....

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, October 4, 2021 9:34 AM

Swiss-Colorado-Lines
Walt was one of us.....

That's true all right.

It's the reason Disneyland and Disney World have live steam railroads, no ersatz  amusement park jobs.  Walt insisted on live steam. 

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Posted by pennytrains on Monday, October 4, 2021 5:21 PM

Flintlock76
I wonder where Ward got that good-lookin' PA?

I was thinking the same thing.  Lionel certainly wasn't making anything like that in O Gauge back then.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, October 4, 2021 6:39 PM

pennytrains

 

 
Flintlock76
I wonder where Ward got that good-lookin' PA?

 

I was thinking the same thing.  Lionel certainly wasn't making anything like that in O Gauge back then.

 

I'll have to hit the books.  The film looks like it was shot in the 1970's sometime, I've got a Lionel 1970 to 2000 reference work, maybe it's in there. 

If not, there were  custom O gauge makers back then, so it could be one of those.

I checked, it ain't no Lionel.  Lionel didn't make any PA's until the 1990's. 

It's a mystery...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMy5ZM6zgwM

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Posted by pennytrains on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 5:16 PM

Could be Athern or Rivarossi/Atlas.  What we'd really need is a Walthers catalog of the right vintage.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 10:01 AM

I agree.  Unfortunately the only thing close to a reference work I've got on hand about the period is Hal Carsten's "150 Years of Model Trains."   The problem is (and I hate to say it) is the book is poorly written and un-indexed (although well-illustrated) so getting any useful information out of it is torturous.  But I can try. 

Hal obviously wasn't at the top of his game anymore when he wrote the book.  Sad.

I checked the Carstens book, no dice.  Maybe it was a Quality Craft/Weaver product?  

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, October 7, 2021 6:41 PM

Hey, I found a possible source for Ward Kimball's mystery PA!

I asked a older member of the train club about it, and to the best of his recollection there was a guy in the mid-70's named Bill Benson who was doing custom brass models and the Santa Fe "Warbonnet" PA was one of them. 

Unfortunately he doesn't remember what brand name it was sold under, but he'd check his archives to see if he could find out anything else. 

He said Mr. Benson was trying to fill a market niche.  At the time Lionel really wasn't doing anything new, just the "same-old, same-old" with different paint jobs. 

So maybe  we might get an answer to the mystery. 

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Posted by M636C on Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:38 PM

To return to the original subject...

There is a four part history of the Disneyland Railway which explained things I was unaware of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NToUUycVCTU

There are also compilations of Disney's use of railroads in his cartoons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTaSoxOpPeE and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hapv0nUHa48

These show the same extracts, more or less...

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Posted by pennytrains on Friday, October 8, 2021 7:07 PM

Also see "The Disneyland Thread" http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/t/264154.aspx

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, October 8, 2021 8:55 PM

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