American Flyer Standard Gauge 4743 Info

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American Flyer Standard Gauge 4743 Info
Posted by JonEddy on Monday, December 23, 2019 7:33 PM

Can anyone show me pics of their AF#4743? I have what is left of my dad's old engine that has been sitting around for 25 years in a box and I'd like to try and restore it but I need some detailed pics of what it should look like. Mine is missing the whole top of the train. Basically I have the engine motor and the body sides. I do know the motor still worked when power was applied years ago. I know I can get some replacement wheels and other parts. I just don't know all it should have. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

   Jon

 

4743 PartsAF frameAF MotorAF Engine Side

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, December 27, 2019 12:27 PM

Hi JonEddy,

No photos of a 4743 in my collection. Here is the information that Schuweiler provides in his book about American Flyer Wide Gauge:

When the book was published in 1989 there were no reported sales of this uncataloged engine, so I guess you could say it must be uncommon.  I have never seen one.  

 

So now the question is what to do with this engine.

Enjoying the World's Greatest Hobby

Northwoods Flyer

 

EDIT:

I did a little more research and the #4743 was the engine the headed up the Empire Express with the Knickerbocker and Henry Hudson cars.  I do have photos of this set in my collection.  If you google American Flyer 4743 you will find more photos in the images section.

This is a set that I have on my "Wanted List"

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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, December 27, 2019 1:08 PM
Thanks for the info, that will help a lot. I found an ebay auction that had the Empire Express version of the engine, but it is nice to know what should be installed on the engine as it was originally built. The question is really what do I do? I have wanted to put it back together as the motor worked back when I put power to it back when my dad gave it to me. I just don't know if I'll ever find a replacement roof for it.
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Posted by JonEddy on Friday, December 27, 2019 1:11 PM

I fogot to post the pick of the otherside. The plate was super corroded so I couldn't make out the Empire Express on it.

4743 Other side

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, December 28, 2019 6:37 PM

A quick google search of "american flyer 4743" lead me to this ebay auction which has good pics of the rooftop details: https://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Flyer-4743-Empire-Express-Loco-Knickerbocker-Vintage-Model-Train-B37-/264095270560

 

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Posted by JonEddy on Saturday, December 28, 2019 7:41 PM
Thanks, I found this auction after I posted the original question. I appreciate the help!
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Posted by JonEddy on Monday, December 30, 2019 10:35 PM
Do you know what type of handrails are normally on AF electric engines? Brass\Nickel? Thickness?
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Posted by JonEddy on Thursday, January 2, 2020 5:38 PM

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So now the question is what to do with this engine. Enjoying the World's Greatest Hobby Northwoods Flyer

I don't think I'm ever going to find an original roof so I was thinking maybe I could fabricate a new one with a few repro parts. I just need some measurements from someone who has the engine...anyone? Please tell me if you think I'm crazy forthinking this could work. The caboose roof just needs to be trimmed and curved a little. I'm thinking the repro top of the caboose may be to small sho I could cut and reshape the cattle\stock car roof to mimic the raised section of roof. THe only thing that might not look right are the raised ridges on the stock car roof. Then it's just a matter of getting the panograph, bell, rails, and light.

 

Crazy idea?Crazy idea continued

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Posted by allaboard1985 on Friday, January 17, 2020 8:28 PM

Hope you are successful in finding a roof, can't wait to see it finshed.

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Posted by JonEddy on Monday, January 20, 2020 11:10 PM
Thanks, I hope to find one too. It might take a while though. Jon
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Posted by JonEddy on Thursday, February 6, 2020 12:01 AM

Big time Update: I opened up the motor and cleaned it out really good and replaced the wiring from the switch to the brushes and changed out the old brushes and springs with new ones that I order from Hennings.

 

Before Cleanup

Old Brushes\Springs meet new. Notice that one brush was completely gone:

After putting it back together I applied power and it tried to run, I was getting power to the to the armature but there must have been a short. I decided to spring for professional help and sent it to the Motor Doctor who rewound the armiture and repaired the commutator.

Then came the fun of adding the new wheels\axles Grumpy I managed to get them on there and will have to touch up the paint on one hub but I did it! I still have a little surface rust to clean up but she looks good!

First test run of the motor. This hasn't been run since 1969 according to my older brother, a few years before my timeWink! I'm not sure if this will work so I am posting the link to the video below also.

Thanks to the Motor Doctor for rewinding the armature and repairing the commutator.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDV02qC0Gl4

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