THE New and Larger BO&W Layout

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THE New and Larger BO&W Layout
Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, October 18, 2019 11:12 AM

The plan. Separate yard in the future that wraps around upper most basement column.

 

 

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Posted by Penny Trains on Friday, October 18, 2019 6:32 PM

Ambitious!  Big SmileThumbs Up

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Posted by fifedog on Friday, October 18, 2019 9:24 PM

Track planning; my favorite part.  Watch the edges.  Nice graphics.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:14 AM

fifedog

Track planning; my favorite part.  Watch the edges.  Nice graphics.

 

 
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The edge clearance was set at two inches except where the future rail yard would be constructed. Do you see those little purple squares used for spacing at edge?
 
One thing RR Track 5.0 would not let me do was to add a batter to the outside legs of the trestle piers which counteracts the centrifugal force as the train speeds around the curve. I remember laughing at a photo of a trestle in CTT where the pier's legs were not battered knowing that even a heavy model locomotive could take it down if the track joints were not tight and soldered.
 
Joists will be constructed of 1x3 with a masonite facing board and curtains. The curtains will be the black landscaping material available at Lowes.
 
I have already eliminated two of the four switches on the lower loop. Not needed.
 
 

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:19 AM

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Ambitious!  Big SmileThumbs Up

My former layout was ambitious because there were many things I didn't know how to do.Dunce It took me many hours to put my first table together and now I can do it quickly because I purchased six more C type clamps. Big Smile

 

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Posted by V8Vega on Saturday, October 19, 2019 10:00 AM

Do you operate your trains or mostly loop running? If I was starting over I might not have any switches.

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Posted by wrmcclellan on Saturday, October 19, 2019 10:35 AM

Buckeye Riveter
 
One thing RR Track 5.0 would not let me do was to add a batter to the outside legs of the trestle piers which counteracts the centrifugal force as the train speeds around the curve. I remember laughing at a photo of a trestle in CTT where the pier's legs were not battered knowing that even a heavy model locomotive could take it down if the track joints were not tight and soldered.

 
There's rivet counting and then there is Buckeye taking it to a whole new dimension!
 
Nice job on the layout plan Buckeye!

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Saturday, October 19, 2019 6:02 PM

V8Vega

Do you operate your trains or mostly loop running? If I was starting over I might not have any switches.

 

 
When guests visited my former layout, they would operate the trains with a CAB-1 or LC+ controller. As the late Chuck "Blueberry" Mathews said, "When you operate Buckeye's layout, you really run the trains." I believe in the video below, the oldest grandson and I were running the trains and the youngest grandson was amazed we didn't crash.
 
 
Normally we ran three trains, but on occasion we had five short trains running using cruise control.
 
Roy please remember I use POT bearings on my bridges, too. Laugh

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:01 PM

Looks great Buckeye!

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:32 PM

Thanks Jim. 

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Posted by cheapclassics on Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:26 PM

Looks good.  Will be nice to see it as it progresses.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Monday, October 21, 2019 7:22 AM

cheapclassics

Looks good.  Will be nice to see it as it progresses.

Mike C. from Indiana

 

 
Thanks Mike. As displayed on my former layout, Garrett, Indiana, the home of the Railroaders, will again be prominent with water tower, station and billboard. As a kid, I loved visiting Garrett to watch the B&O passenger trains stop for crew changes. 

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Sunday, November 10, 2019 6:42 AM

The progress has slowed due to my surgery, but there has been progress.  

Levelers with a non-mar finish.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Sunday, November 10, 2019 10:58 AM

Looking good Buckeye

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, November 15, 2019 7:11 PM

 

 

Third table done.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, November 16, 2019 7:02 PM

It looks like you're taking the time to build great bench work. Should make for an excellent layout !

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:19 PM

Thank you Paul.

Building L-girders.

Forth table.

Last table

First joist @ 16" centers.

Gusset bracing.

I love Irwin clamps. When I built the orginal BO&W all I had were C clamps. Sigh

7th and 8th grade shop class plus good tools really helps.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, November 23, 2019 9:50 AM

Wow !

Just the bench work alone is a work of art !

Can't wait to see the layout !

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:53 AM

The main table is completed with all the joists installed. A benefit of L girder construction is the attachment of the joists. Screws are installed upward and into the joists. First OSB board placed but not secured.

OSB Boards installed and squared with Irwin clamps. After squared, temporary wood screws hold in place. The adjoining tables are not connected to the main table at this time. 

Track is being used to determine where the OSB will be cut for the different layout elevations. I hate Realtrax, but it is what I started with 15 or more years ago beforre Fastrack appeared on the scene. I really wished my dealer had told me about Gargraves and Ross. 

This is my main control point for laying out the track.  There are other control points, but everything is measured off of this point. I can't overemphasize the use of the stringlines. 

The main table is at the bottom of the photo and now OSb has been added perpendicular to the main table.  Those are LED can lights and they really light up the room.  Notice the additional control points and string lines

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Posted by fifedog on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:41 AM

Looking good, Buckeye.

Is that next room for future expansion?

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:58 AM

Very Nice Buckeye.  Its great to see your step by step progress.  It satisfies my vicarious need to build a big layout.  Keep up the good work.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:32 PM

fifedog

Looking good, Buckeye.

Is that next room for future expansion?

 

Future expansion?Confused Laugh Laugh  Laugh That is the store and work room. My trains are still stored in there along with the lawn mower, an extra bed, Christmas decorations, a doll house, a couple of tables, bicycles, etc. I've got enough space for a double decker train layout. This time I have adaquate space, if I don't gain 20 pounds to walk around the layout. In fact, the work cart can go on the outside, too.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:05 PM

Seems to me you'll have plenty of storage space under the table....Whistling

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, February 21, 2020 7:21 AM

Moving forward with track alignment to determine saw cut locations. Ninety nine percent of the table tops are complete. 

 

Penny....After wiring, I'll most likely be storing vast quantities of stuff beneath the layout, when it will not be in the way. 

Also a comment was posted somewhere about the skinny legs under the layout.  I wouldn't let him do a cartwheel, but he wanted to.  Now you know how I will clean the layout. He works cheap, too.

 

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:22 PM

A few changes as we lay the track.

 

 

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Posted by fifedog on Sunday, February 23, 2020 5:30 AM

I like the nice long passing sidings you have, for "start and park" operation.  I encourage you to sacrifice one (closest to the return loop pylon), and put in a couple of industrial spurs.  This will allow some switching opportunity later on, and adds interest.  I have 2 small yard areas, and wish I had room for another.  This allows me to run 3 trains continuously, and hand over a peddler freight to a crew to switch a consist out, with drop-offs and pick-ups.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:09 PM

Fife....When I started I didn't know how many O-42 switches I had when I drew the mainline plans. They were buried in the basement. My old plan did not show my engine yard because it was freelanced after construction. Most likely, I'll add several spurs. I have two engine houses somewhere packed up in the basement. In fact, there is room for a roundhouse on the left side perpendicular to the tracks now shown. Keep those comments comming. It makes me think. IdeaBig Smile

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Saturday, March 7, 2020 6:36 PM

Moving on up. Track marked and removed. Outlines cut with saber saw.

Ten inch risers were cut on the chop saw.

A jig was made to install the riser to the 1x2.

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Posted by fifedog on Sunday, March 8, 2020 5:48 AM

Buckeye - Wow!  That benchwork looks like it could take a direct hit. YesCool

But...can it withstand GRITS? Ick!

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Sunday, March 8, 2020 9:42 AM

Grits will glob it up. Surprise  Good job.

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