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Good X-4-X Engine
Posted by EIS2 on Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:00 AM

My childhood train  was an X-4-X steam engine.  The larger engines in the back of the Lionel catalogs were just dream engines to me.  I now have most of the big engines from the back of the Lionel catalogs, but when I go to a train show with operating layouts, I am always drawn to the small;er layouts and smaller engines, because that is what I have always had.

What would you consider being a very good operating X-4-X engine?

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Posted by rlbarnard on Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:10 AM

My Lionel 1941 2-4-2 Columbia (model 229).

Not only did it run on today's 60 cycle electricity, but it also ran on 25 cycle until the latter 1940s.

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Posted by sir james I on Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:12 AM

There are not many 0-4-0s but Lionels little docksider is a nice engine if you want small. It is an 0-6-0 has smoke and whistle.

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Posted by Papa_D on Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:24 AM

My favorite small steam engine is the 2-6-4 2035 produced by Lionel in ’50 & ’51. It is classified as a K-4 Pacific type steam engine. However, the Pennsylvania Railroad’s Class K-4 Pacific steam engine had a 4-6-2 wheel arrangement whereas the 2035 has a 2-6-4 wheel arrangement. It really should have been classified as an Adriatic Type locomotive.   In any event, in addition to being a great looking steam engine, it’s also an excellent runner on O-27 track easily handling s-curves and back-to-back turn-outs.

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:28 AM

Universal-motor locomotives will generally run on 25 hertz, except for the whistle.

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:57 PM

After MPC took over in 1970, they didn't bring back the 2029 but repurposed the boiler casting into a fairly well proportioned and really good running die cast 4-4-2 in the 8142/8102/8204/8304/8305/8800 with smoke and S-O-S, some with whistles.

I have several of these, and they are real workhorses and can run for hours with a medium load without breaking a sweat. The drawback is that they are double-wound motors with 2 position reverse uniits, but there appears to be plenty of room for a 3 position reverse(conversion - using one of the two field windings) in the same spot as for a 2037 E-unit.

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Posted by cnw1995 on Friday, December 15, 2017 10:04 AM

My favorite 0-4-0 Lionel is Percy from their Thomas line! I've always been partial to short wheel-based engines...

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Posted by LL675 on Friday, December 15, 2017 12:44 PM

any of the 0-4-0 switchers are great, I have the 1615.1662,1656 and all run fantastic. And they can be found cheap.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:22 AM

Papa_D

My favorite small steam engine is the 2-6-4 2035 produced by Lionel in ’50 & ’51. It is classified as a K-4 Pacific type steam engine. However, the Pennsylvania Railroad’s Class K-4 Pacific steam engine had a 4-6-2 wheel arrangement whereas the 2035 has a 2-6-4 wheel arrangement. It really should have been classified as an Adriatic Type locomotive.   In any event, in addition to being a great looking steam engine, it’s also an excellent runner on O-27 track easily handling s-curves and back-to-back turn-outs.

 

 

Wow.  That thing looks like a real blockbuster!

Great, now I gotta get one of them too!  It just never ends...

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:33 AM

Firelock76
Wow. That thing looks like a real blockbuster!

And the X-4-X wheel arrangement is to die for!

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Posted by EIS2 on Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:50 AM

I also have a 2035 and it is a real gem of a runner.

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Posted by KRM on Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:00 PM

My favorite 0-4-0 is my Lionel 1615 Steam Switcher WOB & Slope back Tender 1615T from 1956 or 57. Yes

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Posted by 8ntruck on Saturday, December 23, 2017 10:39 PM

My 1615 I've had ever since I can remember is a good runner. 

Durable, too.  I remember coupling it to the back of my 210 Alco, turning the throttle full up, then uncoupling the tender coupler. The result was a head on crash at the back side of the loop.  I was probably 10 or 11 at the time. Suprisingly, the Alco only has a cracked pilot.  Likely that the front couplers on both locomotives took the brunt of the collision. 

I'm also impressed with the recent 4-4-2 offerings.  Even with the single traction tire, mine will happily pull 8 or 9 of the ACP stock cars along with a caboose.  Smoke output under this load is pretty good as well.

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