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O guage Lionel track question

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O guage Lionel track question
Posted by trains2353 on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 1:25 PM

I acquired a small old Lionel layout with O guage Lionel track. The track is in very nice condition and a gray color. Trying to determine its age. Anyone have a rough idea? TIA.

Bob

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 1:45 PM

1945-1969. Probably.

Rob

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Posted by artyoung on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 2:20 PM

If the track is actually gray, rather than merely tarnished, it may be Korean War production. For that very short period, Lionel plated their track with zinc rather than tin. My own original set from 1952 had this type of gray track that (over the years) developed a powdery surface.

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Posted by BigAl 956 on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:32 PM

Lionel NY is pre-1970.

The dark grey is typical of track pre 1960.

If I had to guess, early to mid 1950s.

That being said does it really matter?

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Posted by cwburfle on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:43 PM

If it's the Korean war era stuff that artyoung mentioned, there are folks who look for it. I don't think they pay a significant premium.

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Posted by 8ntruck on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:13 PM

My first train set was a Texas Special freight that was sold in 1958.  That set had bright shiney finish on the track.

I'll guess that the gray track was made before then.

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Posted by trains2353 on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:35 AM

It doesn't matter. I'm just trying to educate myself on O track. Had O27 since getting back into trains and wondered why and when the O track was made gray.

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Posted by trains2353 on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:37 AM

That's what I was used to seeing; bright shiney track. I like the zinc gray.

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Posted by BigAl 956 on Friday, June 23, 2017 1:57 PM

I Have found that a lot of track that is grey started out shiny. If you turn the track over, as I can see in one of the picures, you will see evedence it was once shiny and turned dull over the years. Here is a simple test. Take steel wool or a scotch pad and rub a section of the underside of the track. If it turns shiny you'll have your answer.

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Posted by trains2353 on Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:14 AM

Will try that and post the results.

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Posted by trains2353 on Monday, June 26, 2017 8:46 AM

I took some 0000 steelwool to the bottom of the track and it is shiney underneath. If it was zinc plated, would it also come off?

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Posted by BigAl 956 on Monday, June 26, 2017 3:35 PM

Track from the 1950s came shiny from the store and dulled over time. As you can see it's a lot of work to restore the shine, a waste of time IMHO. I only shine up the track if I need to solder power feeders on. 

In reality, dull and rusty track actually looks more realistic. The only place to shine a bit is the very top of the rails to improve conductivity. But I've never really noticed any connection problems with dull track.

As long as you dont hook up some super duper power sander I don't think you can rub hard enough to remove the Zink. Smile

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